User talk:PhantomCaleb/Archive 4

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Sorry about that...

I'm sorry about the incident with that user and me. I just got kind of mad, and there weren't any admins on the wiki, so I added a comment to his talk page. I know I had no right to do that, but after he tried to act like I was the problem (here: http://www.zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAutomaticRobot321&action=historysubmit&diff=341476&oldid=341473) I'm sorry if I caused any problems. I know I didn't have any right to do that. —Darkness^(Talk) 16:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Page revert unneccessary

Why did you revert the page while I was adding some screenshots and some links that I've posted. I wanted to use them on the stone head page so that people know if they appear there or not. After all these reasons, i've used them more than 10 times on several levels.

This is what I would like you guys to take a look at this: File:Marbleblast2011-06-2203-13-17-23.png --Brandondorf9999 22:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that is not valid content for the Stone Head article because it's totally fanon. The levels with Stone Head models are custom levels you made yourself; if it appeared in one of the original levels, it would be worth mentioning. As it stands, your edit was just an advertisement for your custom-made levels, which we really cannot have in our mainspace articles. Feel free to add the screenshots and the download link to your userpage.

Like always, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you made this edit in good faith. Quite frankly, though, I get the feeling that all this time you've just been here to yank our chain and my patience is quickly wearing out. Do not repeat such edits in the future. They will be construed as deliberate adveritsing or insertion of false information and that will result in a ban, and a permanent one this time. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

....

Why did u revert something on my talk page? If it was the "Screw the Admins" part, than I just want to say it was only a little joke.

--TripleTriforce 23:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Even if it was meant as a joke, some might not take it as such. For that reason, we'd appreciate it if you just avoided making comments like that in the future. — Hylian King ^[*] 23:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sorry. I won't do things like that in the future. Let's just forget about that now :P --TripleTriforce 23:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. :) Sorry we got off on the wrong foot. — Hylian King ^[*] 23:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Justin said that only my talk page is not appropriate for this, but I can put it on my userpage, without the "Screw the admins" part. I'm just asking permission here because I don't want to get banned. If I did it, it would look like [this]. If you don't like it then I'll take it down :P

--TripleTriforce 23:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Yo, that's totally cool. Like I'd said before, I didn't know you'd had this convo with HK, so it's all good. Your userpage is free game, provided you aren't openly attacking people or using obvious hate speech, which you are not. So don't worry about it!User:Justin ZW/sig 03:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it's all good. I admit I might've jumped the gun a bit here. I like to think we're actually pretty chill around here. I think you'll find that out if you stick around. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 05:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the answering my deletion requests. --RedWyrm13 21:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem! Sorry your first upload ended up being a deletion. Hope that won't stop you from uploading in the future. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 22:20, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

It's cool to know that the small edits I make around here are appreciated. I'm far, far better-known in the The Price Is Right community, so getting such a reaction in a place where I'm nobody is kind of gratifying. :-) -TPIRFanSteve 05:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

The pleasure is ours. Price is Right, eh? Interesting... — Hylian King ^[*] 14:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I help run Golden-Road.net. I maintain the site's FAQ, have listings of which games were played on every show, and can say with a straight face that I'm the only reason the show's staff knows how many episodes they've done. -TPIRFanSteve 19:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Just saw you moved the Enemies in Zelda Watch Game to its correct title, thanks for doing that I just found out I'd gotten the name wrong and was going to move it myself but that saves me a little time. So thaks HK --Shadow Reaper 14:18, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Any time. Thanks for making the page, that helps clear our the Unused Files a little. — Hylian King ^[*] 14:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Guru Meditation Error!

I don't know why but for the past two hours, I kept on getting an error message when checking on the site, where you getting it too, it said *Error 503 Guru Meditation*! --Vaati The Wind Demon 17:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

We've been having issues with the server lately. Usually these problems go away by themselves after a day or two, but we'll look into the matter and try to have this solved for good. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 17:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Impersonator

Hi, I think that this user is trying to impersonate you.

--TripleTriforce 20:56, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! No worries, just the wiki's resident troll is all. — Hylian King ^[*] 21:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I didn't realize you blocked him already. Just a bit of advice for the future, maybe you could delete a blocked users talk page as well to avoid more confusion?

Oh, and also, are you related to "Metroidking" (MetroidWiki's main admin) or is it just a username coincidence? Because both pages say that 'this user hates Tingle with a deep passion'....... --TripleTriforce 14:51, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmm well I don't think we've ever really done that unless the user inserts profanity on the talk page as well, but I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea if the username itself is profane. Perhaps I'll do that from now on.

No, no relation. I don't actually hate Tingle with a deep passion, I just find the userbox hilarious. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

And also, I meant you should actually delete blocked user talk pages, regardless of whether there is profanity or not, because people might think they are not blocked, like I did with that troll.

--TripleTriforce 23:43, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you very much for making better my edits! :) I can see you're a very organized person, by the way, since you seems to be the user leader or something like that :p do you know, why Tetra (from the adult timeline) appears in FSA that is in the child timeline? :O --Isamisa 00:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Pleasure's all mine! Thanks, though. And no, I'm just a plain ol' staffer. But uh... timelines aren't exactly my forte. You might have better luck asking on one of our Masterminds' forums. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: Wait, you're talking about Navi Trackers, right? Since it's not in any way related to FSA's plot (as far as I know) I don't think it would be accurate to say that Tetra appears in FSA. Navi Trackers is just a different thing. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

And do you know why Tetra appears in the Navi Trackers? By the way, according to Hyrule Historia, since Princess Zelda from TAoL was already asleep before the events of TLoZ, it's right to assume that the Princess Zelda from TLoZ is a descendant from the Prince of Hyrule (since he ordered that every female born in the royal family was going to be called 'Zelda), right? Should we add this info to the family branch of Princess Zelda's page? --Isamisa 02:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

That sounds right... Again, I'm not a timeline buff. I know enough to know what I don't know, and timelines are one of those things I don't know. Navi Trackers is another. Sorry.

What I can do is tell you where you might get your answers: Talk:Princess Zelda and Talk:Navi Trackers would probably be better places to ask than here. If your Tetra question is just out of curiosity and not related to adding/changing stuff in an article, I would direct you to the Mastermind forums once again. — Hylian King ^[*] 02:26, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! :D --Isamisa 02:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Help...

I'm trying to add a photo to my User page, and I can't get it on. Can you help me?Ankazar 00:40, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Sure could, but I think our video walkthrough would do a better job of it. I'm also working up a text guide on uploading if that helps. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 01:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.Ankazar 01:42, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Rename question

It seems that Dany36 doesn't want to answer my question, so I'll ask you:

Out of curiosity, how many times is a user allowed a username change? User:Gharet/signature 16:07, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

There's no set number, but I don't think a single user's name has ever been changed more than once. It's generally expected that one who asks for a name change has really thought it through before doing so. That said, if you asked us for a second name change, we probably wouldn't say no. We just don't want people abusing the system. You undestand, we can't be catering to people's whims every time they decide they might like one name over another. — Hylian King ^[*] 23:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I was wondering because I may want to change my username one last time, if it's okay with the everyone else of course. User:Gharet/signature 23:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I was also wondering, can usernames of accounts that aren't active be usurped, similar to Wikipedia? User:Gharet/signature 14:29, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Good question. I was considering usurping a username myself, actually. I don't think it's ever been done at Zelda Wiki, but I asked a Mediawiki dev that's been helping us out and he says it shouldn't be a problem. Might run a few tests just to be sure. It would probably have to wait until we upgraded the wiki's software, though, because we're running on an outdated version of MediaWiki (and consequentially an outdated version of Renameuser). The update should be coming up in the near future. — Hylian King ^[*] 21:41, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Hylian King,

Next time you are logged in, may you change my username to Guilfer; it will be my last request for a username change. User:Gharet/signature 01:08, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I've renamed you according to your request. Now edit with this name for awhile before asking for another rename. You need to actually pick something and stick with it. Heck, I've only been renamed once (to Justin from Neo) a few years ago. And that was only because I thought "Neo" was dumb and it would be easier to just be called by my name, a trend which Abdullah also picked up on.User:Justin ZW/sig 01:14, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the rename as well, and sorry for the trouble (I am quite the fickle fella). User:Gharet/signature 01:20, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Robot

Hi, were these two accounts:

[User:AutomaticRobot123]

Really operated by a robot (or a bot computer program), or was it just a human vandal pretending to be one?

--TripleTriforce 22:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter. He/she was someone who was causing trouble. It was taken care of, and now he/she is gone. What's past is past. :P

But since you asked, I can tell you that, judging from his/her behavior, he/she was definitely not a bot. — Hylian King ^[*] 23:30, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Block me

I WANNA BE BLOCKED!

--MyNameisSock 21:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Question on the ZA Dungon nav template

That was literally copied from the FPTRR dungeon nav template with only minor edits to the names, so do you want to FPTRR template to have the small text replaced with larger text as well? Just curious --Shadow Reaper 13:26, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I think it should, yes. Before we started using the new nav templates they all used to have small text like that, but it's really too small for no reason if you ask me. — Hylian King ^[*] 13:29, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

All righty then I'll get 'er fixed up in a jiffy--Shadow Reaper 13:32, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Cool. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 13:33, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Heads up

I'm not sure but I think your accounts been high-jacked. While going through the recent history I've noticed you adding small amount of texts and then removing them right after. When I checked you last edit on your sandbox that was removed it was "c*ckily weatherc*ck". Just thought I'd give you the heads up on what may be a high jacking of your account. Oh and the most likely suspect other then our reside troll is test333 or test555 who more then likely is still our resident troll. --Shadow Reaper 09:03, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Ha ha, that was us testing something out. No hijacking occurred, I promise!User:Justin ZW/sig 09:16, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

A small request...

While creating the ALttP&FS page I noticed we don't have a category for files for it, although we do for other variations. Would it be possible to create this sometime? It'd be a good way to distinguish between screenshots and artwork from each version. Thanks! And yeah, there's a lot of changes... I still don't think I quite covered everything, even. ※Fizzle (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

That's pretty crazy. I've never played the original SNES version of ALttP, so I just assumed the GBA remake was little more than a port with a couple changes. I was dead wrong, it seems! As far as files from it...I guess it would be beneficial to have the distinction, although a lot of them would just look the same as the SNES version files.User:Justin ZW/sig 15:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

The art and some of the file selection screens are unique, and screenshots have a different aspect ratio, brightness (if it hasn't been changed) and icons at the top. Sprites would be identical except for a small few, sure. There's a whole extra dungeon and stuff too of course.

I personally think the SNES game is superior (primarily due to the inferior GBA sound and some little things like the weird Ganon sprite error), but the new dungeon in the GBA game is great. Shame most people never played it due to needing to play Four Swords as well... if you can't access the extra stuff, the original game is still superior, even with the translation changes (Agahnim has better dialogue in the original anyway).. ※Fizzle (talk) 20:15, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Uh sure, I could do that. Only problem is ALTTP/FS doesn't have a proper logo per se... — Hylian King ^[*] 21:31, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright, it should be good to go. ALTTP/FS, ALTTP&FS, and ALTTPGBA all work as acronyms, among a few others (not case-sensitive, as with the rest) For now I just put the regular ALTTP logo but maybe something similar to this would be in order... — Hylian King ^[*] 22:03, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! And perhaps, but the standard logo will suffice for now. It'll be 99% used for ALttP-themed stuff anyway, just GBA related.

Incidentally, the reason the HH translations might sound similar? A certain glittery berry was working on the official translation as well as the fan translations... ※Fizzle (talk) 23:43, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

.

I know this is kind of a personal question, but are you from the Ontario side or the Quebec side of Ottawa? (Sorry, I'm American, I don't know if it's in both provinces)

P.S. How do I see the blacklist?

--TripleTriforce 23:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Ottawa is in Ontario. The population on the other side of the Ottawa River (in Quebec) is called Gatineau. I live in Ottawa. :)

I can't think of a reason why you would need to know what's on the blacklist... — Hylian King ^[*] 00:21, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sorry for asking about the blacklist. On second thought, I have no idea why I asked anyways :P And also, I have been to Ottawa before, when I was eight years old. I remember that we stayed in a hotel in Quebec, and it's like only 5 minutes from the city so I was wondering if that's part of Ottawa. Also, I heard that the Canadian flags that fly over the government buildings are free, but there is a LOOOONNNGGGG waitlist for them. Is that true? --TripleTriforce 15:14, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

If the hotel was really nice it's probably the Hilton at Lac Leamy. And yup, you can get the flags that fly over the Parliament... After 20+ years. The one on the Peace Tower's 35 years, I think. Pretty sure you can request a free flag from your Member of Parliament, too... Anyway, this convo's kinda getting off-track for talk pages. :P If you have Skype I'd gladly continue the conversation through that. — Hylian King ^[*] 15:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!!!

I see that your birthday is sometime in February (like mine) so happy 18th birthday for whenever it is your birthday. — GeneralTarken ^[*] 20:55, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Haha seems like a lot of people are born in February. Mine's the 26th, actually. Happy early birthday to you as well. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 20:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, mine is the 23rd and I'm turning 17. — GeneralTarken ^[*] 20:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Umm...

Hey King, just something you may need to deal with... — GeneralTarken ^[*] 22:37, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Yup, got it. Just a vandal that seems to have taken a special liking to ZW. No worries. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Help!!!

I fixed it but some guy named username removed is destroying the wiki. — GeneralTarken ^[*] 00:45, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that. We'll try to work on more preventative measures. In the meantime, if he comes back just sit tight and an admin will take care of it shortly. The best thing you can do is not give him the satisfaction. — Hylian King ^[*] 00:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I know, I just undid the crap on my page and warned you. Typical internet troll. (kinda like high school)

— GeneralTarken ^[*] 00:52, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Hyrule Historia's English sources

Where do you find the informations and sources from the official english Hyrule Historia?--Prince Ludwig 22:26, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I bought the book off Amazon. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 22:30, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, is it possible that you might upload some of the pages like you did with the timeline sometime soon or later? You can say no if it's too much. Do you know a website where it reveals every pages or words from the book?--Prince Ludwig 22:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Nah I don't know any such sites. That scan of the timeline was from Kotaku. They do have a few other pages on their site.

I'd rather not risk landing Zelda Wiki in any copyright trouble by uploading full pages of the book. Plus, my own scanner is broken, anyway. Sorry. :( — Hylian King ^[*] 22:56, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Yo

Sorry bout the rollback. Totally accidental, and I didn't even realize I did it until about 15 minutes later when I re-opened my browser :PUser:Justin ZW/sig 02:36, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Can you help me make a page?

I'm trying to make a Kazumi Totaka page, and I don't know where to start. Can you help me?Ankazar 18:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Given Totaka's limited relevance to Zelda, I don't think he would be a valid subject for an article on Zelda Wiki. That would be more Nintendo Wiki or Super Mario Wiki's domain. I went ahead and made the page a redirect to Nintendo Wiki's article on Totaka. Feel free to head on over there and edit the article if you have anything to add. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 19:22, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. You did a wonderful job over there. I have nothing to add.Ankazar 20:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Templates

Does this site have warning templates like the Mario Wiki does, or do users have to type it out when they give people warnings? If not, then could I create these templates and upload them? It would make giving people warnings a lot easier. And also, how do you cross out text??

--TripleTriforce 20:39, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

P.S. This user should be blocked.........

Well, we do have Template:How to Preview and a few similar templates for common newbie mistakes, but as for block warnings and such... I can't speak for the entire staff, but in my opinion, that kind of thing should be handled on a case by case basis (they happen rarely enough, anyway, and it's almost never the same thing twice). I believe problematic users should be addressed by an actual staff member as opposed to just being fed a canned message. I would think it's more likely to have an impact that way.

So personally I don't believe we need warning templates right now. I'll talk to the rest of the staff about it to see what they think. — Hylian King ^[*] 21:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

What did they say? --TripleTriforce 23:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Odd Question

Is there anything I can do to help out concerning the vandalism that keeps happening? Can I mark content or users as inappropriate, or is my only option to contact you guys directly? Cause it is sad how fast the Recent Changes page is getting loaded with terrible content. :( Pixel 20:32, 12 February 2013 (ADT)

Sorry about that. :/ I appreciate that you want to help, though. If you want, you can tag the articles for deletion with Template:Delete. To be completely honest, though, that doesn't make much of a difference. The vandalism will be one of the first things an admin sees as soon as he/she gets online, whether they're tagged for deletion or not.

Now that I think of it, one thing you definitely CAN do to help is email me when a vandal pops up. I'll be able to see it on my smartphone most of the time so you might be able to get me online sooner if you do that. You could even text me if you wanted to. I'd be OK with giving you my number haha. — Hylian King ^[*] 02:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't even know there was an email system through the wiki. X) I really could learn more about the things I can do here, I'm slowly working on it. As for the phone this, if you really wanted to I guess. I would sorta feel bad cause I don't always see them (or at least not before any off you), and I'm not very social. I don't even have people through Skype on here. X) Pixel 21:09, 12 February 2013 (ADT)

Bah, nonsense. Pretty sure we're all awkward penguins here (well, most of us, anyway). :P

Do what you feel. If you want to do the emailing thing, I'll appreciate it. If not, no worries. — Hylian King ^[*] 13:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for placing an off topic template. I didn't realize that conversation had to do with the wiki. --TripleTriforce 18:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

No worries, please just be more careful next time. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 21:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Skyward Sword Item textures

This is a bit more complicated than sprite ripping but I made an attempt. These two images (Items, Collectables) are just from the beginning of the game, I need more time for the various updates (the sub menus, the flames and other quest items etc.) that appear during the game and the dowsing screen of course. But you can already place the different items in it and work something out for the template. Maybe you don't need all these screens, just share your vision with me and I will try to help you;-) --ShardofTruth 23:02, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Great! But uh... the links appear to be broken. All I'm getting when I click them is an HTTP error. :( — Hylian King ^[*] 23:51, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to butt into your conversation but the links are working just fine. It may be something wrong with your connection. ?_? --Shadow Reaper 00:19, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

More links: http://i.imgur.com/K4Vng4a.png http://i.imgur.com/G7lXt2p.png I hope these work for you. --ShardofTruth 00:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, I can't thank you enough!

To be honest, I haven't thought much farther than the basic inventory circle. It's been a while since I've played SS so I don't really remember what items appear where. I'll pick it up and refresh my memory when I have the time. Soooo that said, there really isn't really much of a vision worth sharing at the moment. Feel free to take over the entire project if you feel so inclined. :P

The first links are working fine now. Odd. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:01, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Last update for today: All quest items with tablet All quest items with Triforce I have to check my savegame backups for the swords and the different items and their quantities. I can't really remember all these items either. :P--ShardofTruth 01:38, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, this is the final inventory screen with every item maxed out.

I checked my backup savegames and they are quite lacking, so I will have to play through some portions of the game again to get a complete dowsing screen, the non-upgraded items and the place of some quest items like the Life Tree Fruit. This will take a little while though because I borrowed my Wiimote and the game is almost impossible to play without it.--ShardofTruth 16:47, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright, sick. Having the dowsing menu eventually would be a plus, but this is definitely good enough for starters. :)

I wouldn't worry too much about all the item upgrades. As long as we have one version of each item like we do, it's all we really need for the navigation template because the various upgrades are on the same wiki pages anyway (except for the Goddess Sword and Master Sword, so that one would be needed.) — Hylian King ^[*] 12:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Just curious

I'm just curious on one thing I can understand removing ganon from his own line in on the Bosses of Wand of Gamelon page but is there a reason Dark Link has his own line on the Bosses in Zelda II page? That was the source material for aiding the editing process and the reason Ganon got his own line. --Shadow Reaper 16:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand. I know some other pages do it that way, so it's not like you did it "wrong" or anything. I personally don't think it's necessary, that's all. I'll go ahead and change the Zelda II page right now. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 16:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

It's cool I just wasn't sure if it was a size thing or a canon issue. I'm doing another gallery of sprites for Faces of Evil soon so I wanted to see what was what before hand. :) --Shadow Reaper 16:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

OK. :) Also, Dark Link is appearing on the same line for me. You probably just have a more narrow screen than I do, so the Dark Link image gets pushed onto the next line for you. That's just how our galleries work, it wasn't done deliberately. — Hylian King ^[*] 16:28, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Long overdue apology

I am extremely sorry for my behavior using the other accounts I created. I have stopped vandalizing and trolling for good now, and I will never do these kinds of things again.

--TripleTriforce 15:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Your apology is much appreciated. Consider this water under the bridge, man. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 15:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply

I replied on my talk page (to your "Edit Summaries" section) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TripleTriforce 23:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I saw it. Thanks for cooperating. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 23:36, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

What did the rest of the staff say about the warning templates? --TripleTriforce 23:46, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

We're all on the same page about it. We feel like people should be hearing from an actual staff member in these situations and at the moment we're willing to oblige. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, but we're quite alright with the way things are now. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 23:49, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Would this be good...

Sorry in advance for the size of this section; I was wondering if this would be good for a featured photo nomination. I don't know how to make this smaller, so again, Sorry! File:Screen Shot 2013-03-12 at 4.33.27 PM.pngAnkazar 02:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Caleb is currently on vacation, but I'd say that's a great candidate for a featured pic. Feel free to nominate it here!User:Justin ZW/sig 03:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Ankazar 19:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Actually, that image looks like it's fan art, and I'm pretty sure that we don't allow unofficial art to be Featured Pictures. User:Tony/sig 00:32, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Tiny bit too late there. Ankazar 03:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

To the contrary, my response preceded my edit to the Feature Pictures page by several hours. User:Tony/sig 09:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I meant that it had been up for a while before you added that comment.Ankazar 04:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Slight complication...

I made my signature today, and I noticed that there were these bars there. What should I do to get rid of them?Ankazar 03:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

You mean the brackets [like this]? If so, you literally just have to remove them from the coding surrounding the <span> tags. User:Tony/sig 09:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I have a question, if someone sighed up, but didn't get a e-mail address confirmation, then what do they do? Mindy 00:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Go to Special:ConfirmEmail and click the button to have an activation code re-sent. If the email address was entered incorrectly, you can correct the error in Special:Preferences. Hope this helps!User:Justin ZW/sig 00:11, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

What if the email address is correct, but they still haven't got the email address confirmation? Mindy 01:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

If you're editing, it should mean you've already confirmed your email. You wouldn't be able to edit in the first place if you hadn't; the wiki software wouldn't allow it. Are you trying to change your email, is that it? — Hylian King ^[*] 11:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

No, trying to help a friend. Mindy 15:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. Sorry for being so confusing. Mindy 16:35, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Translates

HK, if I come across any empty English name translation, is it cool to Google Translate them to fill in the gaps, or are they too generic to be adequately correct? --Smighty 10:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Never use Google Translate. It's incredibly inaccurate.User:Justin ZW/sig 17:52, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't say never, but yeah, relying on Google Translate alone for anything but the simplest translations is probably not the best idea. I would recommend using bilingual dictionaries as much as possible. Also, many of our Translations pages have an English translation on-hover over the foreign names, so you can check that too.

If all the foreign names have a translation that's the same as the English name, you can just leave out the "Meanings" field entirely. Otherwise it's just repetitive. — Hylian King ^[*] 00:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha, no repeats and Bilingual Dictionaries > Google Translate, except in the simpliest of translations. I doubt I'll really need to know what to do, but i thought id better check the protocol. Thanks guys --Smighty 00:34, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Ratings

Rating organisations

• "Game Software Rating Management Regulations" (遊戲軟體分級管理辦法; Taiwan / Republic of China) rated OoT3DS as 6+
• DEJUS (Brasil, en.wp) rated some Zelda games as 10
• Now I'd guess it's this way: The Classification Board (CB, also known as Australian Classification Board (ACB) though as far as I can see it does not call itself that way) was found in 1995 and was subordinated to the OFLC. In 2005 the CB changed it's ratings (the end of video game ratings like G 8+ and the start of using PG etc. for video games). In 2007 the OFLC ceased to exist, but CB didn't. On 1.1.2013 the rating "R 18+", which already was in use for films, was added as a possible video game rating. Also CB kind of "converted" their prior/in 2005 ratings to in/after 2005 ratings. Sources/Indications:
  • When searching for older games the rating shown next to it is a in/after 2005 rating, but reading in rating report prior/in 2005 ratings are used
  • CB: "The Classification Board is established under the Classification Act 1995"
  • CB: "[...] (the OFLC) ceased to exist [...] on 1 July 2007. The policy and operational functions of the OFLC were transferred to the Attorney-General’s Department. Decisions are still made by the Classification Board [...]."
  • Classification Act (using the "ComlawId"s here): "C2013C00001" first mentions R 18+ for video games, "C2005C00359" first has PG etc. for video games put under Part 2, Division 1, Point 7, the Classification Act has 1995 in the name and OFLC ceased to exist when "C2007C00387" came out (though maybe not by this act).
• OFLC (NZ): censorship.govt.nz IMHO sounds like that a video game which wasn't restricted or banned in UK and Australia does not need to be rated/labeled by the OFLC (NZ). Thus it wouldn't surprise, if/that they didn't rate any Nintendo game.

Possibilities for Template:Infobox Game

• Game Software Rating Management Regulations (GSRMR) could be added, but adding it for just one game?
• DEJUS could be added (, even though the DEJUS page (IMHO) is a bit irritating..)
• OFLC and ACB could be fused to CB, I guess, and as there is no need for OFLC (NZ), OFLC could be removed. CB's rating might sometimes look like "G 8+ / G" though.

Possibilities for Template:Names

• As OoT3DS was released in Taiwan (title: "塞尔达传说 时光之笛 3D") etc., Chinese could be added.

Just BTW

• About Rolling Bones: "Knochenwalze" (the spiked roller) and "Mini-Boß" (traditional German spelling, accourding to a reform reform it would be "Boss" now) are said to be used in a German guide book. Both put together as "Miniboss mit der Knochenwalze" (which would be like "mini-boss with the spiked roller") is unofficial though.

-Greetings Bernd 20:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC), added: 21:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Alright, well thanks for the clarification. I thought the name sounded a little... dubious.

As for all the rest, I promise to give it my time as soon as I can. I would right now if I could, but it's Friday afternoon and my brain is shutting down, so I'm afraid I'm rather useless at the moment. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 21:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Email

I know I'm being annoy, but...can Zelda wiki send email address confirmations to...Inbox.com? Or do you have to be sighed up with Yahoo! or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindy (talk) 17:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with asking questions, Mindy! It's not annoying at all.

MediaWiki should be able to support most email services. I've never tried inbox.com so I couldn't tell you for sure, but it should work.

By the way, when starting new conversations on a talk page, please click "Add topic" instead of "Edit". That way everything stays nice and organized, avoiding mix-ups between convos. And don't forget to sign your posts! — Hylian King ^[*] 21:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

The Hero of Hylia here, this will be the first thing I put up here, the first of many, I hope. Oh, and about Hero of Hylia, that's me too, I tried to get up there once quiet a while back, but I couldn't use Zelda Wiki with Inbox.com, so I had to change the E-Mail password, and then change some of my name (I added "The" to my name, I actually like my user name better this way anyway). So, are there any pages that I could help with or anything, because I don't want to have gone through all of that trouble just to sit back while everyone else dose the heavy lifting, ;). The Hero of Hylia 02:32, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

On damage....

Okay here's my issue with "damage". Its so generic of a possible page that I see no real use for it what so ever. Being a vidoe game encyclopedia that ZW is I can fully understand needing to cover a number of things but damage? That would be best for the Zelda Definitions page if we used it at all. And then if we did create such a page what do we fill it with: Link falls down a hole, he gets hurts, Link gets stabbed, he gets hurt, ect. Thats my issue, I bring this up because a while back we had a user creating pages for things like "eyes" and "stairs" that had little to any room for growth but damage has absoultly no room outside of a general description and a list of ways of how Link can injure himself. --Shadow Reaper 15:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I am writing an article on Link's most basic abilities because nothing like it exists. There are a few pages like, well, I suppose you saw the Autojump article, and there is also the Roll Attack article, but no one covers Running, Walking, and Swimming in their totality. It may seem like there is no need for articles like this, but are many things that can be said about these sorts of topics. It is all dependent on details. There may be a lot more to say about damage than what you immediately realize. All I ask is that you please try to be open-minded. Also, falling down holes and getting stabbed, great, I will add that to the list. Noble Wrot 20:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Instead of "damage", it would probably be better to have pages on the HP and AP systems, respectively, which cover the code mechanics of how characters recieve or deal damage, as well as modifiers such as sword upgrades or guardian acorns. There's plenty of room in that concept, although a list of ways to get hurt would, yeah, be pretty boring and useless.KrytenKoro 21:07, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

See I like that idea more KrytenKoro. That's something I could see being as a stand alone page. --Shadow Reaper 22:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree, lots of stuff can be done with that idea. It should be noted that HP and MP (Magic Points) are specifically named in certain games (mainly Zelda II, but ALttP and OoT use MP with different magic using exact values, they're even listed in the manual for OoT) as actual aspects of the series, so we wouldn't just be applying it to this series from other games. APs are not mentioned, but weapons are defined by their levels in many games. The games may shy away from being full RPGs but they're still full of RPG tropes (and Nintendo still calls them RPGs half of the time). These aspects would make interesting pages, although MP can probably be covered on the Magic Meter page. As for HP... not sure exactly, but "damage" is vague. ※Fizzle (talk) 01:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

ALBW

Thanks for changing the icon for ALBW. Sorry about my haphazardly cropped image, feel free to delete that. The reason I have trouble with white specks in transparent images is because on Photoshop Elements clear things appear as white and gray checkerboard, and it's hard to see the little dots. Next time I should fill the background in with black. \{°-°}/ User:Deku Tree Sprout/sig 00:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

A good way to go about that is by adding a new layer beneath the image. It acts as a temporary background so you can check the image against whatever color and then delete the layer when you're done. I would recommend using #17456E (the wiki's color) so you can see how it'll look on the wiki before actually uploading it. That way you don't have to upload several times over. — Hylian King ^[*] 00:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Ooh, great idea! User:Deku Tree Sprout/sig 00:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

I've been editing on Wikis for three years. But it's nice to know that I'm doing well on here. Thanks for the compliment! Nintendocan 18:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem! We strongly believe in giving credit where credit is due. — Hylian King ^[*] 19:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Christianity

Granted I was wrong about "church", but priest, halo, and cemetery do NOT have Christian-specific connotations. Crystal Dragon Jesus refers to a fictional religion in the same role as medieval christianity (theocratic unifying religion), not a reference to Christianity itself; ex. Full Metal Alchemist specifically refers to Christianity as a dead religion in its universe, despite having a Crystal Dragon Jesus in the form of the sun god religion. The main message of the rest of that section is pointing out instances of Christianity itself appearing in the series (such as the crucifix), so it is contradictory to point out examples of elements that appears Christian merely being part of the Golden Goddess religion, especially since the section in question is supposed to be describing the use of the cross symbol. Honestly, even though the church bit is "accurate", it doesn't belong on the page because the page isn't about religious representation in the Zelda series, it's about actual physical symbols, visual icons with set meanings.

Basically, the section as it reads now veers totally off-topic for the page into what feels like some editor's train of thought, and contains several instances of what, by the quick research I've done, appear to be largely false assertions. It doesn't do the article any favors and should be trimmed.KrytenKoro 21:53, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

The priest and the cemetery are part of the Christian connotation because they're related to the church. They don't have to be connotations per se. Also, there's a mistake in the article; it's actually called a graveyard in-game. That word can have a Christian connotation as well.

The connection between the Sanctuary and Christianity mentioned in the article is valid per se, even if it is in an awkward spot. Better to find a more appropriate place for it and cut-paste than, well, just cut. Perhaps it could be merged with this. I have no objections to cutting the stuff about the Triforce and halos. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

According to wikipedia, graveyards are neutral in regards to religion (except perhaps religions that perform sky burials or cremation).

I agree, all the stuff about the church should be moved. It's not relevant to the article, and it has way too much speculation to boot.KrytenKoro 13:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I have a problem

I cannot bring an external link to the Link between worlds talkpage, as it asks me a question about the first item in A Link to the Past. I put "Lamp", but nothing happens. What do I do??? Sorry for bothering you. <i>Xanthium</i> (talk) 18:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I think you have to put Lantern. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You do, yes. It's lantern, not lamp. Yeah, I'm the one who makes those questions, so if you ever get frustrated because you think you're putting the right answer but it won't take it, just ask me.User:Justin ZW/sig 05:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Categories

I'm having a problem with the categories. Basically, I wanted to create sub-categories for the Listings category since it has too many pages. So, I wanted to have the categories EnemyGalleries and BossGalleries under Galleries, which in turn is listed under Listings. The problem is that the enemy galleries contain the boss galleries pages via transclusion and the result is this. Maybe it's better to have a category named Enemy and Boss Galleries. Anyway I messed up :/ What do you propose?
Edit: Nevermind, I found a solution. <noinclude></noinclude> does the work. I will make some sub-categories tomorrow. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 02:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Glad I could help! :P

By the way, "Boss Galleries" would probably be a better name than "BossGalleries". I can easily change "EnemyGalleries" to "Enemy Galleries" with a quick text replace. — Hylian King ^[*] 13:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Can you also change the pages that belong to the category Enemy Galleries so that they point only in this category and not Listings? Although, the boss galleries should be changed as well due to the transclusion, but I'm going to edit those anyway and put them under the Boss Galleries category. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think I'm done with the sub-categories. Is it possible that the bot removes the pages under Dungeon Listings, Item Listings and Place Listings from the Listings category? About the credits, what I meant was that it's not a list linking to other pages, which is what I understood a listing constitutes according to the description at the top of the page. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I understand, it's just that "Listings" is a much more intuitive fit than "Zelda", which is too broad a category to be of any real use. Perhaps Listings should be redefined?

The bot is working as we speak. Kudos for all your category work lately, by the way! I know how much of a headache that can be.— Hylian King ^[*] 13:16, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, so I have another request again. I noticed that there are swords in the weapons category although there is a sub-category for them. They are clattering the category unnecessarily. Also, regarding the animals in the races category, do you agree with the creation of a template for them, or maybe there should be more discussion/feedback? As long as the animals are not listed under races and people (e.g. Epona) I'm fine! Thanks for all your help with the bot, by the way. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Always glad to help! If ever you get tired of asking, feel free to give AWB a spin yourself. It's a fantastic piece of software. (Otherwise, I really don't mind doing it myself. I rather enjoy using AWB, actually.)

Honestly, I don't think anyone will be opposed to the animal infobox if you want to go ahead and make it. But just in case, I would give people a bit more time to comment. I'll try to bring it to people's attention in the Skype editor chat. We'd be happy to have you there if you're interested, by the way. — Hylian King ^[*] 16:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I didn't know of AWB. I'll definitely check it out, thanks :) Edit: Wow, after checking the program a bit I must say that I'm impressed! So, here's my question. Do you think it would be a good idea if there were sub-categories for the Enemies category like those? Right now there is only one (Octo Family). The enemies are categorized by game of course but not by their type. Those templates are awesome by the way, kudos to all who made them! Zeldafan1982 (talk) 02:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest bringing that up at Zelda Wiki:Hyrule Castle and seeing what other editors think... Personally, I don't see why not! — Hylian King ^[*] 11:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit: Now that I think about it, though, there is the little problem that the templates include bosses, too. Would they be included in the category? If not, it would have to be added manually to each enemy page (...with AWB; the list comparer tool would help nicely with that). — Hylian King ^[*] 11:41, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that there are some pages pertaining to Zelda Wiki in the Community category although Zelda Wiki is a sub-category. I would remove them myself of course, but I don't have the rights to edit them. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Done. (Totally forgot about this. Oops. :P) — Hylian King ^[*] 19:19, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem! There are also three templates that need to be changed, namely Template:Milk Bar, Template:Door of Time and Template:Hyrule Castle. After that all the pages will be removed I think. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 04:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Ancient Stone Tablets dungeons articles

How should I do Levels 3, 7 and 8? I'm thinking to put the info for Level 3 in the Thieve's Town article, as it's based on it, but for Level 7 I'm not sure. Should I put it in the Ice Palace article, because of it's features, or in the graveyard article, as that's where the dungeon is? --Mariofan5000 (talk) 16:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not at all familiar with the game, but at a glance I would suggest separate articles for all of them except Level 1 and 6. Unless the dungeons strikingly resemble the places in ALttP, they should have separate articles. For example, Level 2 in AST may be located at the same place as the Waterfall of Wishing in ALttP, but besides that the two locations have nothing in common. On that note, I would also have recommended a separate article for the Swords of Ancient Stone Tablets, as opposed to just throwing them in with the ALttP swords.

Again, I've never actually played the game, so it would be good to get a second opinion from someone that has. Fizzle hasn't been active lately but you can try dropping him a line if you want.

By the way, I've noticed you've been uploading files with uppercase file extensions. Please try to keep them lowercase instead (.png instead of .PNG) as per our image policy. You can rewrite the file's extension to lowercase in the "destination filename" field of the upload form.

Thank you for contributing to Zelda Wiki! — Hylian King ^[*] 18:30, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Hylian King. I have a question.

I'm new here at this Wiki. Could I have a few tips from you? :) -CP409 (talk)

Sure! Did you have anything specific in mind?

If you're just looking for general advice, the help guide is the best place to start learning the ropes. (I skipped over reading it when I started editing here and regretted it afterwards. :P) The Getting Started page in particular will be helpful if this is your first wiki. After that, the Quality Standards is the next most important one as it deals with Zelda Wiki policies and conventions.

If you're looking for ways to help out at the wiki, Castle Town is a good place to start (the "helpful tip" there is also pretty essential to editing at Zelda Wiki). You can also find a list of articles that need attention here. If images are your thing, then be sure to take a look at Image Requests.

Also, I see you've already made a custom signature. Very nice! Just one thing: seeing as there's HTML coding in it, it would be much appreciated if you could use method two of signature-making instead.

That's about all I can think of at the moment... I know I just threw a lot at you, so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask me or any of the other active staff. We're here to help! — Hylian King ^[*] 18:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

That's everything I needed! Thanks. I also used Method Two. -CP409 (talk)

Awesome! You made a little mistake here but I took care of it for ya. ;)

Also, the div tags were causing unsightly line breaks so I changed it to span. It's basically the same. Hope you don't mind! Not sure how much you know about inline CSS but if you want to change the space between the green border and the text, that's the padding property. The first number (2px) is the top and bottom padding, and the second (9px) is left and right. The bigger the number, the bigger the space. If you use four values instead of two—for example, 2px 3px 4px 5px—that's the top, right, bottom, and left padding, respectively (it goes clockwise). — Hylian King ^[*] 21:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

A problem I've been having

Hey, I came to you about this problem i'm having since you seem to be helpful and kind. I have been trying to edit the Floor Spikes article for the past few days to include a new image I uploaded here:

http://zeldawiki.org/File:FloorSpikesWW.png

However, any time I try to edit that article or include my image in any other article, I get a "503 Service Unavailable" error. This seems to just happen with this. Any way you could help me fix this? -- Kidbuu4ever (talk) 22:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

That's strange. Reuploading doesn't seem to help, so I'll bring it to Justin's attention. Server error fixing is more his forte. If you run into similar errors in the future, your best bet would be to talk page Justin. I assure you he is kind and helpful as well—as are the rest of the staff, for that matter! Thanks for the compliment, though. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 18:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Ah alright, I'll report things like that to him in the future if I can. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it! -- Kidbuu4ever (talk) 10:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem! Thank you for clearing out the image requests!

On that note, I thought you might be interested in these cheat codes. They remove the HUD so you can get clearer screenshots:

HUD removal codes
Ocarina of Time	Majora's Mask	The Wind Waker
8011B92F 0001	50000902 0000 813FD76E 0000	003F70E7 0000007F 003F7117 0000007F 003F714B 0000007F 003F716B 0000007F 403BB494 00106A80 403BB498 002F5080 003F7185 00000001

All codes are for NTSC. The OoT one makes the game a bit wacky and the interface won't come back on until you restart. The TWW one's incomplete but you can turn it off and on. The MM one works perfect but doesn't remove the clock. You can make it disappear temporarily if you take out the Ocarina and put it away (it reappears the moment you move). You can also get rid of it permanently with the fourth day glitch.

If you'd rather not use the codes, that's fine; just go on doing what you've been doing. Just thought I'd let you know they existed. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 12:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I'll add it to my (again) growing list. These errors, I swear...

By the way, I don't bite, so feel free to let me know of any server problems you find. Fixing those is my job around these parts. :PUser:Justin ZW/sig 18:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you both! I'll be sure to use those codes when I can, I appreciate the help -- Kidbuu4ever (talk) 23:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Project Hylian Creed

Hello Hylian King, I am Tim. I am the last day start with a petition on Change.org and a webpage on Facebook, I call this action Project Hylian Creed. For more clearly about this, for the webpage on Facebook, you can click here and for the petition on Change.org itself, you can click here. Anyway, I want to ask you for your help with this. Tim Auke Kools (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Multiple edits

Hello! I noticed you've been making a lot of edits to the same page over a short time. Doing this puts a large strain on our server and clogs up the recent changes. So instead of saving a lot, use the "show preview" button next to the "save page" button. It'll allow you to view your edit for any mistakes so you don't have to make a lot of fixing edits or additional ones! :) Just thought you might need a reminder. :PUser:Justin ZW/sig 13:27, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Caleb, your ability to take a joke is legendary.User:Justin ZW/sig 16:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Dark Rites

My thanks for your input on the trivia/theory for the Goddesses, etc. Given that the idea does not meet theory policy, I'm simply going to drop it, it's been too much drama already and I'm not that dedicated to getting it noted. My apologies for any trouble I've caused. Drake Clawfang (talk) 18:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Contacting People

I reeeaaallly don't feel like making a Skype account and using it to chat, are there any alternatives like IRC? I don't see any mentioned around here, so I dunno :/ PPLToast (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

There is only the Skype chats at time being, I'm afraid. — Hylian King ^[*] 14:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Aww, that sucks. Oh well :( PPLToast (talk) 14:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Changing name

Hello, you wouldn't happen to know how to change names on this wiki? I ask because it depends on the site (for ex. MarioWiki has an official page for it, whereas other wikis just need you to ask)??? Also, you wouldn't have a "purge" button or anything similar?--Xanthium (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

You only need to ask an admin. What would you like to change your name to?

And yes, there is. The purge button is in the top right corner, in the dropdown menu to the left of the search bar (hover over the little downwards arrow to open the menu). There's also the keyboard shortcut Alt+0. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:31, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I want to change it to the name I always use in wikis, Iggy Koopa Jr. Thank you in advance. --Xanthium (talk) 06:54, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

De rien! :) — Hylian King ^[*] 09:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

How did you know I'm French? And thanks for the name change! --Iggy Koopa Jr (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

No problem!

I checked your userpage on other wikis to make sure I had the name right. I kinda had a feeling you were francophone since most of your contributions here are regarding French names. Thanks for that, by the way. Foreign names are probably the wiki's biggest on-going project; help is much appreciated! — Hylian King ^[*] 06:04, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Another Name Change Request?

Hey, I wasn't aware that you guys could do name changes, would it be alright if I could possibly change mine? When I signed up ages ago I used my old E-Mail address name and I didn't pay attention to the distinction between that and the username. If it's possible could my username be changed to Bwar? I would appreciate it if it's not too much trouble. - Kidbuu4ever (talk) 18:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

No problem! I'll get to it right now.

Just keep in mind that you've been Kidbuu for a while, so people won't recognize you at first. — Hylian King ^[*] 03:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Ah that's fine, my editing is more important either way. It'll eventually be recognized on it's own. Thanks, I appreciate it! - Bwar (talk) 01:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

My edit in Myths of The Legend of Zelda Series

Dear Hylian King, I have make a edit in article Myths of The Legend of Zelda Series for a detail of the HD version of The Wind Waker. Only, I am not sure whether the text is good enough. I want to ask you to check it, you can adapt if that is necessary. Tim Auke Kools (talk) 10:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look at it personally if you like, but keep in mind that all edits are checked by a patroller or an admin anyway. — Hylian King ^[*] 10:48, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Thieves' Hideout and Thieves' Town should be a different page

Hello, Hylian King! Sorry for disturbing but recently I discovered a paradox regarding one of the dungeons in A Link Between Worlds. I just created a new page for the boss Stalbind, but when I hit the link to the Thieves' Hideout dungeon, it redirects me to Thieves' Town, which is a dungeon in A Link to the Past. My concern is, we should create a disambiguation page for the following:

• Thieves' Town (A Link Between Worlds): The town in Lorule
• Thieves' Hideout: The dungeon in Thieves' Town
• Thieves' Town (A Link to the Past): The dungeon in the Village of Outcasts
• Village of Outcasts: The town in the Dark World

We can mix both Thieves' Town pages into one, but I think Thieve's Hideout needs its own page. What do you think? --Net34a (talk) 06:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I've responded on the Thieves' Town talk page, but please wait another day or two anyway. It's important to give others the chance to weigh in. Just because I'm an admin doesn't mean that whatever I say goes. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 07:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Ok, I'll wait then! Meanwhile I'll be contribuiting in some pages! --Net34a (talk) 07:55, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Hylian King

I'm new to this wiki, but I have experience on other wikis in Spanish, I come from Mexico, so excuse my English. But I'm willing to help in any way I can, if they need a Spanish name, I have to me. -- Carlos A A S (talk) 04:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

That's good to hear! Foreign names are probably the wiki's biggest on-going project, so we could definitely use your help. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 06:24, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok :). Another thing here is something like the Wiki Activity, but not resienstes changes -- Carlos A A S (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately no, that function is exclusive to Wikia. — Hylian King ^[*] 09:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so the recent changes served. --Carlos A A S (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

iOS Web App Icon

Okay, so I tried to send this message over Skype, but it's being a pain. My apologies for when this reaches you twice.
Anyway, something occurred to me: I think the Wiki needs a Home screen icon for iOS and Android devices. I've created these icons that can be added to the source code of the Wiki so when an iOS or Android (I think) user adds the site to their home menu, they get an attractive icon with the Wiki's logo rather than a screenshot of the main page. There are four files for the different resolutions of Apple's phones and tablets but the end result looks like this. What do you think?

To add these icons to the website, the following code needs to be added:

<link rel="apple-touch-icon" href="touch-icon-iphone-precomposed.png"> <link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="76x76" href="touch-icon-ipad-precomposed.png"> <link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="120x120" href="touch-icon-iphone-retina-precomposed.png"> <link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="152x152" href="touch-icon-ipad-retina-precomposed.png">

Just like the favicon, the images have to be uploaded somewhere on the Wiki first. I've also made them so iOS 6 and under won't add an ugly gloss effect to them and so the image will appear correctly on both iOS 6 and iOS 7 app icon sizes. Is this something you'd be interested in? SuperSonicConzor (talk) 16:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! I'll see if I can add them to the wiki when I have the chance.

Thanks! — Hylian King ^[*] 14:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. Looks great on the iPhone 4S (iOS 7). Would you happen to have an Android or iOS device to test it on?

FYI, I believe the correct size for "touch-icon-iphone-precomposed.png" is 60x60 (unless I'm mistaken), so I went ahead and scaled it down to that. And you're right, apple-touch-icon does also work for Android but apparently they're dropping support soon (see here). I made a 196x196 copy for Android and added it using <link rel="shortcut icon" sizes="196x196" href="imagename.png">.

Cheers! — Hylian King ^[*] 12:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I dunno if I can post here or not, but I really like those Home screen icons. (Looks good on iPad iOS6) Thanks SSC and HK :) PPLToast (talk) 13:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Great Job, Hylian King! I was delighted to see the icon on my homescreen this morning! It looks fantastic on my iPhone 5, iOS 7, but for some reason it's showing the old Apple gloss on my iPod Touch (4G), iOS 6. Unless that was desired, I thought adding "precomposed" to the filename cancelled it out on all iOS 6-and-under devices. To me, the gloss looks a bit outdated, but if nothing can be done about it, it won't matter too much. What do you think?

(And no problem, PPLToast!) SuperSonicConzor (talk) 22:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Turns out you have to add "-precomposed" to the "rel" attribute; the filename doesn't really matter. Let me know if it still isn't working. — Hylian King ^[*] 09:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

The iOS 6 gloss is gone! It's working perfectly now. SuperSonicConzor (talk) 14:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi Hylian King. It's me, Krystal. I just wanted to ask what you think of the Family Tree on my userpage. My bro made it with a lot of effort, and he has been asking around what others think of it, and he has asked me to do the same. --Krystal (talk) 21:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not really interested in non-canon stuff, so perhaps I'm not the best person to ask.

It is quite elaborate, though. — Hylian King ^[*] 12:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Alright, but please dont call it non canon, that makes me and my bro both very upset. --Krystal (talk) 15:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to butt in on this, but from every angle, it is indisputably non-canonical. That doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, so there should be no reason to be upset, but given that you use information and pictures not found within Nintendo/Zelda canon, it automatically becomes a fan-work, which is by definition non-canon. He doesn't mean to insult it by any means. User:Tony/sig 21:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The family tree gives no respect towards the timeline. Characters from later chronologically are giving birth to characters that lived before them, and characters are given parents from alternate timelines. If you wanted to at least be plausible, you would have to make sure the family tree goes in chronological order. Some of the images are for the wrong character, like Navi and Ciela. Also there appear to be non-canon characters on the tree, such as Lance. If you fixed all of those mistakes, it would be significantly better, although it would still be non-canon, as all fan works are. Champion of Nayru (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Timeline? Seriously? We are not obligvated to believe/accept that there is an official timeline, just because some Japanese guy says so. Miyamoto and Aonuma may make the games, but that doesnt give them any more power over the canon than fans have. If you want to give them the power to control what you believe, be my guest, just don't shove it down the throats of those who dont agree with you. --Krystal (talk) 22:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, yes we are. Their word is, to make reference to TV Tropes, "Word of God." They are what control the canon, and without them, you wouldn't have anything to base your family tree on, regardless of however much liberty you've taken. Fans really do not have any canonicity whatsoever, hence the dichotomy between "canon" and "fanon." Believing otherwise is rather delusional.

Regardless, this entire wiki is based upon their canon, so this really isn't the place to avoid having the canon "shoved down your throat," as you say. Yes, you are free to believe what you wish, but that does not mean what you believe is right. Equally, don't expect people who follow canon to agree with you or accept your thoughts.

In any case, this discussion has outlived its relevance (and I'm sure Hylian King doesn't appreciate us arguing on his talk page), so I recommend that we cease this discussion. There's zero point in continuing any farther than we have. User:Tony/sig 22:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Timeline Nintendo uses is NOT a canon timeline. There is no canon timeline to Legend of Zelda. Their timeline is basically their own timeline theory. That's it. There is no denial here. Zelda fans who think the developer's timeline is 'canon' are the ones in denial. Or rather they're glad to have an excuse to feel superior to everyone else. If you're one of those Zelda fans, don't talk to me. --Krystal (talk) 23:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Please do not add any more to this discussion. User:Tony/sig 00:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Off-Topic Messages

This series of messages doesn't relate to improving the page that this talk page corresponds to. Zelda Wiki is an encyclopedia, not a forum, so please direct these messages to the Zelda Universe formus or to the #general on Discord.

Throne Room

Just alerting you now about this issue. A Link Between Worlds very explicitly labels the final boss arena as a seperate dungeon called "Throne Room", with its own Dungeon Map and Hylian text and everything. I've had to revert mistaken corrections on this multiple times, with people pointing to the Prima guide or otherwise. Please keep an eye on this, and help explain the issue to anyone who's having trouble understanding it.KrytenKoro (talk) 03:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, please deal with this now because he is edit warring even after I pointed directly to the source for him.KrytenKoro (talk) 03:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I will deal with the edit warring, but explaining your viewpoint is not the staff's responsibility. It is especially not mine, as I have not played the game. (It's nothing personal, I just think it's wrong to act solely on another person's word.)

If you would explain the issue on the talk page, I would gladly direct other users to it and discourage reversions until the matter is resolved. — Hylian King ^[*] 04:14, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not asking you to explain my viewpoint; apologies if it sounded like I was. I had provided the official source when first splitting the page, and people were ignoring it, so I didn't know how to address that other than contacting staff or edit warring (obviously bad).KrytenKoro (talk) 15:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I see. All is well, then. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppets

Ghirahim87 appears to have created additional accounts to create the illusion of consensus:

• TheLink7
• Totoofze47

As far as I've seen, they've only edited on pages where consensus was against him. Can you look into this?KrytenKoro (talk) 22:36, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

with all due respect man, i don't know what the heck you're talking about. i simply said i did not think you handled the situation with the guy well, and i am trying to find a reasonable compromise for the article you were fighting over because i just don't think you have good reasons to keep them separate, and it looks like i am not alone in that. i even calmly asked you on your own talk page about this, and you've done nothing but attack me as someone else entirely, and i honestly don't appreciate it. and for the record, i don't even know what "sockpuppeting" is. TheLink7 (talk) 22:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Case in point.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:08, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

hylian king, i'm asking you to tell krytenkoro to leave me alone and to stop harassing me. that's all i ask. to krytenkoro: if you are actually interested in working together, i'd like to. TheLink7 (talk) 23:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

KrytenKoro

pardon me hylian king, but krytenkoro is continuing to try and go to other administrators and spreading lies that i am somehow connected to another user, and i'd like him to be told to stop. i am getting tired of it, and honestly he is getting on my nerves. can you please do something about this? thank you. TheLink7 (talk) 02:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Harassment/Incivility

hello sir, i am a new user to the wiki, just joined today in fact. i was reading some of the more recent edits and simply commented, in a respectful way, that i didn't think that some users handled an argument well and the two have been verbally attacking me, reverting a compromise i tried to broker on a couple of articles, and are accusing me of being someone else entirely. i am writing to ask that you tell them to leave me alone if they cannot conduct themselves civilly and in a friendly manner. i have tried to be nothing but calm, civil and rational with them. the two users are User:KrytenKoro and User:Vaati The Wind Demon. all i said to them was my comments on some race debate about rosso and the fact that i felt there were better ways to handle arguments with other users than how the argument exploded. TheLink7 (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, yeah, HK, could you look into these discussions? They're getting off-topic with the accusations of harassment and "egg on face" and such, and we would appreciate someone putting it in order.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:08, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

i'd appreciate if you would stop accusing me of being someone i'm not sir, and quite frankly you've been nothing but inhospitable to me simply because i said you could've handled your arguments with the guy better than you did with constructive criticism. i think your bullying of me is uncalled for, and quite frankly i'm a little tired of it. i would like an admin to do something about it if you are not going to be reasonable, whether that be hylian king or another admin. TheLink7 (talk) 23:11, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm with KrytenKoro on this, I've had enough and I'm not wasting my time on this anymore and the issue has gone on long enough and it doesn't need to be extended any more than it already has been. I know the Admins will do what's right and I stand by there decisions anytime! --Vaati The Wind Demon (talk) 23:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

i am asking the admins to inform you to leave me alone if you are not going to edit or negotiate in good faith. the two of you keep trying to associate me with someone i've no idea who he is. but i stand by my original assertion: neither of you handled things well there, and if this is any indication, it doesn't seem it was the first time or the first person you've done this with. i simply wanted to help broker a compromise on the page you were all fighting about and said that i think there's better ways to deal with people than the way you guys did with him and vice versa. but if you two are going to keep harassing me rather than work with me, i'm asking the admins to tell you to back off me. TheLink7 (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Lorule Castle/Throne Room

hello sir, i am sorry to bother you with so much on my first day, but aside from the unpleasant business with the members i reported to you, i wanted to ask you, yourself: do you really feel it's justified to have a whole separate article for the lorule castle throne room? we don't get a new dungeon map or new item, we just face the boss there as far as i can recall, and i noticed a couple of other people didn't seem to think it was warranted to have two separate articles for it, so i thought i'd ask you or rather an admin in general about it. i made mention that each new floor of the hyrule castle in alttp has a new title appear at the top and the map changes too, but i don't think that justifies a new article for every floor of the tower. do you understand what i mean?

secondly, i attempted to forge a compromise measure by merging the two articles but keeping all content, instead creating a whole new subsection on the lorule castle page for the throne room and what happens there. User:KrytenKoro reverted everything i did and has since been accusing me of something called "sockpuppeting" that i don't even know what it is. could you perhaps look into this and see what you think? just me personally, i don't think two pages are warranted and it looks kinda goofy to me, but it's whatever. i just think it looks goofy and the reasoning doesn't seem sound to keep them apart, and i noticed i am not alone in that thought. can you bring some resolution to this? i attempted to, but it seems some users are more interested in trying to project their anger at another user on me than to calmly discuss possible changes. i would appreciate this. cheers! TheLink7 (talk) 23:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

As I've stated earlier, on the page and on your talk page, it is an utter falsehood to claim that we "don't get a new dungeon map" (and you don't get items in the first three dungeons, either). I would appreciate it if you'd stop repeating that lie.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

begging your pardon sir, but i didn't ask you. i am asking hylian king what he thinks. i just don't understand your reasoning for this, and it seems others don't either. so i am asking hylian king what he thinks, and i will thank you to let me converse with him about it apart from you since we have already been talking on other pages together. i intend this to be for hylian king though, not you, no offense intended. i just want his opinion here. TheLink7 (talk) 23:45, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm perfectly fine with that, but I'm not going to let you lie to him to try and sway him to "your side". State your case, fine, but be honest.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

good god, you have trust issues man. i am not "lying" or "trying to sway someone to my side" or what not. if anything, it seems like you've been trying to do that yourself, with your attempts to tie me to someone else entirely different. i have been nothing but honest, and i'll thank you to stay out of it unless bidden here. i am simply asking hylian king's opinion, because i don't feel your reasoning is sound for keeping the two articles separate. i am asking whether he feels it's justified keeping them apart based on what we've heard from you, nothing more. TheLink7 (talk) 23:59, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

"we don't get a new dungeon map or new item," -- That was a lie, and it's one I've informed you was a lie since you first started editing this wiki. If you want me to exit this thread, simply state "We get a new dungeon map", and I'll be satisfied.KrytenKoro (talk) 00:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

but kryten, we don't. we don't get a new map in a chest when we enter the throne room, and we don't acquire any new item in the throne room before the boss. therefore, please help me understand how you can say it's an entirely separate dungeon? i just don't understand you, and i don't think others can either. you may feel like it's a "lie" or something, but i just don't. i don't recall ever getting a new dungeon map in a chest or a new dungeon item. are we to make separate articles for every floor of every dungeon that says "l1, l2, l3, etc" or for every throne room we encounter that's part of a castle? honestly, i just don't understand your reasoning, and i'd prefer to have hylian king's opinion in the matter since you don't seem willing to at least consider the counterargument. TheLink7 (talk) 00:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

...have you played ALBW at all? You get the dungeon map for each dungeon, automatically upon entering the dungeon. You never have to find it in a treasure chest. Furthermore, the first three dungeons in the game do not give you new dungeon items either. As I've already explained, the Throne Room isn't a "floor" on the Lorule Castle Dungeon Map -- it is on a completely separate dungeon map, and you can't look at the Lorule Castle floor maps while in the Throne Room, or vice versa. I've said this several times, and you continuously claiming that we "don't get a separate map" is (1) an outright falsehood, and since you've been informed of that, now a lie, and (2) indicates that you are not actually familiar with the game.

If you don't have access to the game and cannot check for yourself, I can provide photos once I get home. But again, I'm fine with you making an account of yourself to the staff, so long as you don't lie to them. Simply recant the lie, and I'll leave this thread. It's very simple.KrytenKoro (talk) 00:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

kryten, please don't take this the wrong way, but i really don't appreciate your tone or the way you seem to attack me. i actually have played the game through once now, and i am simply saying that throughout this series, most dungeons have maps, compasses, etc (that's not to say all do but most do). nobody is "lying" here, i am simply raising a point that in my opinion, i don't see a case to be made that the throne room is a completely separate dungeon all of its own, because it just doesn't appear to be. are we to consider the room where we fought yuga in hyrule castle to be a completely separate dungeon too? because that sits right about where lorule castle's throne room is you know? i just don't see merit in your argument, and that's just being honest. should we consider the throne room in tp to be a separate article too? or what about the throne room in the palace of twilight? what you say could all easily apply to them as well in several cases. can you offer no better reason for keeping them separate? and I am not going to "recant" a "lie" when nobody is lying here, we are simply discussing. are you really that insecure that you can't have a calm discussion with someone without accusing them of "lying" simply because they don't see what you claim to see? TheLink7 (talk) 00:23, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

...there is not any dungeon in this game that contains the dungeon map as an item you need to pick up.(source: [1]) I am bewildered about how you can claim to have played this game, yet also claim that most dungeons in it have dungeon maps as obtainable items.

Please stop with the red herrings about the Hyrule Castle and Palace of Twilight rooms, because those do appear on the same dungeon maps as the rest of their dungeon. They are not analagous situations at all.

When someone makes a false claim, especially after being corrected on it and especially fater evidence is provided proving that claim false, it is a lie. You have done nothing to actually test my evidence besides twisting words and attempting false analogies, and have made several additional false claims on top of the original. Again: All I'm asking is that you take back your lie about there not being a separate dungeon map. Either do so, or state that you refuse to do so.KrytenKoro (talk) 00:35, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

what is your problem man? really, what is your problem? i have not been making accusations against you or calling you names, despite how you've been addressing me.

i never said ALL dungeons have maps, i said MOST in the series do however. i have lied about nothing, i am simply having a discussion with you in general, not just about the game we are discussing at present. if you really feel the need to "win" said discussion by having me say you win, you may be waiting a while, because that's not the point of this discussion. i am simply floating ideas and trying to understand your reasoning. what's so wrong about that? and you have failed to answer my questions about the other throne rooms we have seen, you just want to dismiss them as "red herrings", but i see value in bringing them up. do you have a real, genuine explanation for how this is any different from them? and can you tell me how this is different from arguing that every level in hyrule castle's tower that gives a new title such as "L1, L2, L3, etc" wouldn't also require new articles too under your reasoning? if not, just say so, nobody is judging anyone on this end in this discussion. TheLink7 (talk) 00:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

(1) Yes you have, several times (the thread above is an accusation that I've been harassing you), (2) you do get a new dungeon map, it's just automatically obtained and not in a chest, as I've said several times, and provided a link to IGN for, and (3) I've explicitly said that I don't want you to say I win, and I am fine with you continuing to disagree with me, I simply want you to recant your lie. Please quit with the off-topic red herrings about the Hyrule or Twilight Throne Rooms, about "floating ideas", and all such. I am pointing out that you said something that was untrue. I have pointed to the evidence of this in the game, and provided a link to a reputable journal rebutting your claims that the dungeon maps in ALBW are obtained in chests. That is the only topic I am discussing in this thread. Please respond to this accusation, and this one only, and I will leave the thread.KrytenKoro (talk) 00:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and per the edit you just made, I already answered it, several times: "As I've already explained, the Throne Room isn't a "floor" on the Lorule Castle Dungeon Map -- it is on a completely separate dungeon map, and you can't look at the Lorule Castle floor maps while in the Throne Room, or vice versa."KrytenKoro (talk) 00:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

is that really all you have to offer? that you can't view any other floors when inside the throne room? that's a very weak argument in my opinion sir, if you don't mind my saying so. so what? how does that make it a completely separate dungeon? the facts are that it is indeed a part of lorule castle, and yes you may not be able to see it on the map because it's in a separate part of the castle accessible only through princess hilda's office perhaps. did you stop to think about that? the throne room isn't some completely separate dungeon, it's an adjunct and boss room of the lorule castle dungeon. do you have any other justification beyond the whole "can't see the rest of the map" argument? is that all you have to offer for this? TheLink7 (talk) 00:52, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Enough. I would appreciate it if you would both stop bickering on my talk page, please. This accomplishes nothing. — Hylian King ^[*] 00:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

i apologize for blowing up your page sir, i half-forgot it was on here. could you please attempt to settle this though? that was my original request in this. TheLink7 (talk) 00:57, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I apologize for the squabbling, I should have had more trust in your judgment, and not felt the need to clarify.KrytenKoro (talk) 01:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

in case you were wondering amidst all this mess hylian king, we've been having a big of a debate about why or why not to consider the throne room separate from lorule castle. kryten claims it's an entirely separate dungeon because you can't see the map for the rest of the dungeon while in the throne room and vice versa, but i just don't see that as a justifiable reason to keep it separate, as we haven't done that for other instances it appears. also others even said they didn't see the additional page as necessary. therefore i attempted to craft a compromise measure to merge the two pages but preserve all materials on the lorule castle page and make a subsection for the throne room on the lorule castle page. it just doesn't make much sense to keep them separated out, especially when i've seen most guides and walkthroughs consider them one entity. what do you think though? i originally posted to ask your opinion before kryten continued the debate here. TheLink7 (talk) 01:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I have not played A Link Between Worlds and so I cannot make any judgments on content. If you would like to get the opinion of an admin, Pakkun has played the game and might be able to offer assistance. However, keep in mind that administrators are not an ultimate authority in matters such as these. It is for the majority to decide how content is organized on the wiki; every editor has equal say. The more you blow an argument out of proportion, the less likely it is to reach a productive conclusion as others are discouraged from weighing in. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

important

now that the ban has expired, I have added a few "basic notes" for discussing things with me at the bottom of my user page, please read them before the next time you speak to me. --Krystal (talk) 06:18, 17 December 2013 (UTC)