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Places galleries

Hullo, Hylian King! I recently started on my newest wiki project: creating a gallery of pages for all the games. I just finished doing the first one, the one for Majora's Mask, and I was wondering if maybe you could help me out with the Oracle series ones? I haven't really played those games (ok, I played OoA but I barely remember it XD) so I wouldn't know how to best group them together (if it's possible?). I'm posting the finishing pages in the game articles, so...if you'd help me out with those two games (or more, if you want to? Hehe!), I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! :] Dany36 22:25, 13 January 2011 (EST)

Ah, so there IS a hidden motive to all the images you've been uploading lately! :P I think it's a fantastic idea. I'd love to help out with the OoX gallery (and beyond, if I can). And yeah, you're certainly not the only one who's neglected the Oracles. It's why I spend so much time on 'em. :P

Well now that I'm talking to you we might as well jump right into it: concerning the places in OoA, I've already uploaded pics for pretty much all of them (I'm working on OoS). I guess the only way to go would be to represent each location with only one "screen" of the area (so one 160 x 128 "square") so that the whole page stays uniform. The only problem would be finding a section of the area that well represents the entire place, which seems to me like a challenge, or at least much more difficult that what one can do with panoramic shots for 3D games like what you did for the MM page (very nice, by the way). I guess another option would be to do what I did for the Locations section of the OoA Translations page, but that might seem rather dull... As for grouping them together, places in OoX aren't really separated into regions like they are in MM or OOT. For OoA, we could group the locations into "Past" and "Present", but then some places would come up twice if they appear in both ages, and we can't do that for OoS. At very least we could split them into "Labrynna"/"Holodrum" and "Dungeons"...

Anyways, sorry for loading this all on you at once. When you asked for my help, you had no idea what you were getting into >:].

Oh, and I've been meaning to ask you: Would you mind telling me how you (and others, like Minion) get such freakin' amazing panoramic images? Like any of the ones on the MM Places page, or the TWW overhead views of islands, or Minion's TP locations. That stuff is best left to the pros, but I'm curious to know how you guys do it. — Hylian King ^[*] 18:20, 14 January 2011 (EST)

Hmmmm you're right about finding a section that would represent the entire place... I hadn't thought about that! D: But would it be so bad to just place the entire image (like the one that's on the infoboxes for Ambi's Palace, Rolling Ridge, etc)? The sizes would vary but...well, I guess if there's another solution you can come up with it, then go for it! As for grouping them...I was thinking of doing them in alphabetical order, or perhaps the order in which you visit those places? XD Or something. :c I guess I gave you the hard ones to do huh... :/ You're a great editor, so whatever you come up with will be good, I bet. XD

About the images... I usually mess around with the Moon Jump code to get those "overhead" shots. It takes me a while to get the right angle (and to get Link out of the way XD although sometimes I have to do some minor photoshopping), but it's worth it! I'm not sure if Minion does the same, but well, that's my strategy! ;) Dany36 19:02, 14 January 2011 (EST)

Well, thanks for the vote of confidence. I guess grouping them alphabetically makes the most sense. We'll see how things look as we go along and figure out the best way to present each location from there...

One more thing: how do you remove the interface from your screenshots? I don't see any life and magic meters or buttons on any of your pictures. Do you photoshop it out, or do you just cut off the top part of the screenshot? Is there some kind of way to remove the interface from the emulator? Just curious... — Hylian King ^[*] 09:30, 15 January 2011 (EST)

There's a code that lets you remove the interface in OoT, MM and TP. For TWW, I had to do some photoshopping because the AR code that removes it would crash my game... D: Dany36 14:48, 15 January 2011 (EST)

Interesting...Ah! I forgot to mention that you should really make templates out of the awesome navigation maps you put at the top of each places page. They would make great additions to all the individual location pages. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to take any credit for something that was all your work. — Hylian King ^[*] 15:21, 16 January 2011 (EST)

Hmmm yeah I had been wanting to add them but some of them are just plain too big (like TP's and maybe OoT's...), so it could get complicated for pages like Lake Hylia where it appears in ALttP, OoT, and TP... :/ I'll bring it up to Castle Town and see if anyone can come up with a good solution (maybe the hide/show template?) --Dany36 21:00, 16 January 2011 (EST)

This is a nasty message

I bet the title got your attention :P Hope I'm not bothering you, but every time I look through the Recent Changes, I come across your fantastic work. It's kind of inspiring, actually. Keep up the great work!

Also, the staff was wondering if you'd like to join the public chat on Skype. And by staff, I mean me. It's a nice place to chill out, and we coordinate a lot of ZW stuff from there. Some of the people can get pervy, but they're a nice bunch. And don't worry, all our conversations are in text, so you can check what we were discussing if you weren't online at the moment. Since I live on the other side of the world, I frequently find myself doing that. Anyway, thanks for reading this. Keep on improving the wiki! — Abdullah ^{[T] [C] [S]}  16:27, 28 January 2011 (EST)

Woah, you gave me a scare there. I thought I was about to witness my first vandal. >.< Well, if you wanted my attention, it worked! And thanks, that means a lot to me coming from you, Mini-...er...Abdullah.

Weird, today was the day I finally got around to getting Skype. I asked Dany to let me in earlier today since she was online, but I must have missed her. Either that, or I just don't know how to use Skype yet. Looks like I've been missing out! I'll be there as soon as someone invites me in. My username is "hylian_king". Hard to forget ;) — Hylian King ^[*] 16:49, 28 January 2011 (EST)

Promotion

As a testament to your stellar work ethic, excellent contributions, high activity, and going above and beyond the call of a typical user, you are now our newest Patroller! Congratulations, HK! This is a promotion well deserved. If you are unfamiliar with your newest duty, patrolling edits, ask any of the active admins or current patrollers - you know any of us would be glad to set you up. — cipriano^talk 23:34, 24 February 2011 (EST) EDIT: And while you're at it, make sure to archive this talk page soon! It's getting super long! — cipriano^talk 23:35, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Before the talk page is archived, I too want to congrat Hylian King for the promotion. We need more editors like you, pal, and it's good to see that the staff has a new buddy to patrol those endless edits. Their job will now be easier =) --K2L (Interrogatory) 01:15, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Yo! Just wanted to say congrats and keep up the excellent work, mate! :)Mandi ^Talk 06:25, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations! (whatever a Patroller is...) Seeing your fine work at first I tought you already were an admmin or something! --Kombatgod 04:26, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Awesome! Congrats! —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 10:40, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Thank you all for your support. It's much appreciated. It's an honor to be a part of the ZW staff. Now I'll hound the Recent Changes even more than I already do. ;)

And I'll be sure to follow you're advice, Cip. I've been thinking about archiving for a while. This is certainly as appropriate a time as any!

Thanks again, everyone! — Hylian King ^[*] 16:30, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Why?

Why did you revert my last edition on the sacred realm page? I have passed almost all the Zelda games in Spanish (Spain) and I can't remember the name Region Sagrada. It's called Tierra Dorada (Golden Land) or Reino Sagrado(Sacred Realm), but never Region Sagrada.SilverArcher 14:03, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the only Zelda games ever to mention the Sacred Realm were A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princess, and this last one was the only one of the three to be translated into Spanish. According to this text dump, the Spanish (Spain) version indeed refers to the Sacred Realm as "Region Sagrada". Do you remember where exactly you saw it referred to as "Tierra Dorada" or "Region Sagrada"? I would agree that these two would make more sense, but we have to list what is stated canonically. — Hylian King ^[*] 16:56, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

OK, I didn't pass Twilight, but I don't have time to read that text. Also, it's possible that text isn't about the restibg place of the Triforce, it could be about the regions of Farone, Lanayru...

And the remake of A Link to the Past also states that is Reino Sagrado. And its older, so I think its a little more canonical.

Anyway, I will try to check that text dump. The last thing I want is put a false quote.SilverArcher 17:12, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Hm, I was unaware that A Link to the Past was translated to Spanish. Since this is the case, then there's no problem; it's simply a matter of putting all three and specifying which game it applies to. Sorry for the misunderstanding. — Hylian King ^[*] 17:44, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Just FYI

Just to let you know, I have personally accessed the area above the graveyard using the hookshot/longshot (longshot if I need to be specific). I did this on the original gold case cartridge, first version of Ocarina of Time, maybe they have prevented this in newer versions (I'm sure they never intended for people to get in with the longshot). Anyway, it is possible to access the Shadow Temple this way and is absolutely not a "false statement". You should try it on the original version (or maybe it can still be done in newer ones?) I'm surprised a bit that this trick isn't better known that a wiki editor would remove it. Shadowsheik 14:30, 4 April 2011 (EDT)shadowsheik

I try to keep my edit summaries as brief as possible, so if it came off as rude or offended you in any way, I assure you it was not my intention. I did try to make sure I was certain it wasn't possible (yes, I did try it on the 1.0 version with no success) before reverting your edit; there was nothing that indicated it was possible. Research did not bring anything up, so if it's possible it certainly isn't very well known.

As I have said, I've tested it out myself with no success, even on the 1.0 version. I even asked some of the administrators and they said that, although they've seen the Shadow Temple being reached through certain glitches, they've never heard of it being possible to do so with the Hookshot. I'm really not seeing what could be "hookshotted" onto (for lack of a better term), other than the fence separating the graveyard from the temple entrance, and that doesn't seem to work. Perhaps your particular game is glitched? Are you certain you're not mistaken? Would it be possible for you to prove it (via a recording or whatever)? I hate to ask you all this, but I hope you understand that I do so entirely with the well-being of the Wiki in mind.

Welcome to the Wiki, by the way. I hope this little issue doesn't prevent you from making contributions in the future. ;) — Hylian King ^[*] 19:05, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Hmmm, well, I can't be the only one who's done this, can I? Yes, I did hookshot the fence, it did take me a while; I discovered it because I was exploring and saw the fence and that it lead somewhere (this was before I had reached the Shadow Temple) and simply attempted to access it repeatedly and was finally successful. I figured out later in the game I shouldn't have gotten there that way :/ I have repeated it too, but it's not a 100% thing I guess, determination would be key.

I have no way of proving it, I wouldn't know how to record myself playing on my N64 and if it is a glitch unique to my cartridge then it wouldn't be successful on an emulator. Besides, I'm out of the country for school and I don't have my console even if there were a way :(

I don't think I've been deterred, I enjoy reading the wiki, I'm sure I can contribute plenty to canonical and non-canonical material alike, being as old as the franchise, I've had plenty of time to think about these things:)Shadowsheik 22:46, 9 April 2011 (EDT)

Well that's a shame. I honestly haven't heard of anyone else doing that. Until someone can confirm that it wasn't just a glitch on your cartridge, I think we'll have to leave it out.

I'm glad to hear this hasn't deterred you. I didn't want you getting the impression that every single contribution you would make would be as heavily contested as this one. I was afraid I had scared you away from the Wiki! Anyways, no hard feelings, I hope. See you around the Wiki! — Hylian King ^[*] 07:13, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

A nomination question.

Inquire to my question of the Featured Article section, as one of the main rules applies, saying ten users must agree to nomination of an article, which of mine being the Sheikah, how in fact do you get ten users to agree to such? Or do you post your nomination of the article then the users approve or disapprove of it? I'm pretty much basically confused onto that point, any answers...? If not, that's fine, bro! Thanks for in advance either way. Hylian Historic 05:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

First you post the article on the Featured Article Nomination page, then the people vote. When nominating an article, try to copy the same formatting as everyone else. This means you first have a right-aligned image, then small comment about the page, and finally the vote templates. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. — Abdullah ^{[T] [C] [S]}  04:52, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Uh, yeah, what he said.

It's fully your decision, but I'd think twice about nominating an article like Sheikah, given that it reads mostly like a story. Although it may make for a nice read, it's not the kind of content that's appropriate for an encyclopedia; it's something we're trying to fix (hence the Story template). As you can see with the Great Flood nomination, articles with "Chrissues" (articles written by the user Christopher, who was responsible for many important articles at ZW, but was notorious for his story-telling style) usually don't go over fairly well. Nominate it if you want, but expect some people to be strongly opposed to it. I might even vote against it. ;) — Hylian King ^[*] 06:22, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Perhaps your best suited for helping with this

I can't get to my user page or any user page so fat it keeps saying that it is missing some file or no such file exists I don't know if you have come across it or would know who to go to about thisTheif 1 01:32, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

It's a bug, bud. No worry at all, just a little mix up, y'know? Plus this kind of caught my eye, so I decided to just give you a heads up. Hylian Historic 06:09, 30 May 2011

Ok I just hope it gets fixed soon it is kinda a hassle I can't even try and work more on my page Theif 1 02:23, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Hope you don't mind, Thief, but I made a minor fix to your post so it doesn't show in source code mode =). --K2L (Interrogatory) 02:33, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

OK wasn't sure how to not get that but still not have it look like it is part of the original post Theif 1 02:38, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

No problem. =) Now let's wait until HK comes back so he doesn't get shocked with the cascade of posts we're doing here =P --K2L (Interrogatory) 02:46, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

We're in the middle of moving to a faster server, which you can read about on the Main Page. Unfortunately, some files required to view userpages was removed from this server. Everything should be back up within a day or two, though. If you really can't wait, you can view your user pages by editing them. The links for editing are as follows: Theif 1 and Hylian Historic.

We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. If you're still experiencing any problems, don't hesitate to ask on this page or any other staff member's talk page. — Abdullah ^{[T] [C] [S]}  04:35, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Oh I know it's just a bug or glitch, I'm not worried about my page at all, really. xD;; Hylian Historic 08:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Erm... Well then. Problem solved. Glad I could be of use. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 06:24, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Thanks

While I'm at it, I have a few questions: 1. The Wiki has been acting funny from the last day, and I was unable to access it. Now that I can access it, I can't access User Pages. If this is a known issue, then I was just wondering what's wrong.

2. A few of the featured pictures of this site are increased in size than the original picture, or so I think, so I was thinking if I should do something with them, or is it discouraged.

For example: This is a Featured Picture in this Wiki: http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/archive/8/84/20100504011622!Link_and_Boss_Key.png This is an option for replacing the above image: http://www.zeldaeurope.de/galerie/albums/gallery/Z9/Illus/z12_02_big.jpg

While the above image is 900x900 and the one below is 600x600, I think the second one is the original. Also, notice the details on the walls and everything else of the lower one, while the above one looks like its walls and everything else are blurred.

Just had these questions in mind. And once again, thanks for the comment. --Max 12 22:43, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

No problem. To answer your questions:

1. The Wiki is having issues due to a recent server move. The problem should (hopefully) be fixed shortly. In the meantime, if you wish to edit your userpage you can do so my manually inserting the URL. This is yours.

2. Well, usually, the bigger the image the better, so long as the quality is retained. The Zelda Europe one is definitely better though. Go for it. I would recommend saving that image as a PNG and uploading it as a newer version of the existing file instead of uploading a new file.

Speaking of file extensions... it's been a couple images new that you've uploaded with uppercase file extensions (.PNG instead of .png). For the sake of consistency, all images should be uploaded with lowercase file extensions. But don't worry too much about it, an admin will take care of the couple uppercase PNGs you uploaded... eventually. :P

If ever you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask me or any other members of the ZW Staff. We'd be glad to help! I'd also recommend that you give the Help Guide a read if you haven't already. The Quality Standards section is especially useful for learning the ways of the Wiki. — Hylian King ^[*] 14:14, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

1. Well, now I know. Thanks for the info.

2. Well, I'm on it then.

And as for the extensions, I just wasn't aware that uppercases and lowercases made a difference. I guess I'll take care from now on. I'll also check out the things you mentioned.

By the ways, there are a lot of duplicate images, and I was wondering wouldn't it be better to delete the lower quality one? And if so, how can I mark them for deletion?

Last question is about moving pages. When I'll be able to, is it okay if I move around the image files to more appropriate names? --Max 12 21:30, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Every time you upload an image that supersedes another, the outdated/no longer needed/duplicate file should be marked with the Imdel template. You can also specify the reason why the image should be deleted ({{Imdel|sup}} for a superseded file, {{Imdel|df}} for a duplicate file, and so on). Doing so adds the image to Category:Files needing deletion, which will occasionally be cleaned out by an admin (usually Dany).

Unfortunately, moving files is a privilege only admins have. I don't know why. If we can move content pages, why can't we move files? Anyways, that's the way it is. If you want a file moved, you'll have to ask an admin. Most of them are no-lifers, so if you ask nicely it'll get done in a reasonable amount of time. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 08:42, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Lol at the admin comment. Thanks for the help. See you around then. --Max 12 10:02, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

No-lifers? That's quite a pretentious comment, HK. I'd like to see a little more respect towards your admin staff, especially from such a respected editor (even if it was a joke, I guarantee some may not take it as such). I've been out for awhile, but plan to resume soon - I've only seen great things, Max 12, keep it up! — cipriano^talk 11:58, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Agreed. By the way, would you happen to have a Skype account, Max? Because you're more than welcome to the Zelda Wiki Skype Chat. It's a great place to discuss wiki-related matters.

As for what you said, Brent, I think you - all of you - know how much respect I have from the admin staff. Heck, I'd consider myself friends with most of you. Friends can make jokes among themselves, can't they? I would not have made that comment if I was not comfortable with my relations with the admins. You know I'm not the kind of person to throw insults intentionally. But anyways, you're right. It wasn't right for me to say that. If anyone took offense to it, please know that it was not my intent and that I am very much sorry. — Hylian King ^[*] 12:20, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Hey, guys, relax. Conflicts are only fun to see in political debates (and in forums) =P. --K2L (Interrogatory) 13:25, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Haha, you guys seem like a friendly bunch. Knowing that there is an active community in this wiki consisting of the admins and some of the users feels nice. It makes the place more alive.

Speaking of community, is there a forum here?

And no, I don't have a Skype account. Too bad... Sorry if I'm being a bother in any way. --Max 12 16:23, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Lol! Yea, don't worry, HK. Max, get one! — cipriano^talk 21:27, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Lol, that was a nice kind of conflict to watch. Nobody answered if there is a forum here, though.. :(

Well, I'll get one... Someday... XD Well actually, I can't get my lazy self out there to do it, so I'll do it some other time. --Max 12 14:18, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

Nope, sorry! There are no forums for Zelda Wiki. :c Dany36 16:51, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

FPTRR

Hey, I noticed that you're updating things for Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, too! I got it last week, and have been adding new items as I cam across them since around Lon Lon Meadow. I just wanted to say thanks for updating the page too, and wondered if you've already beaten it or are still playing like me. :3 Tigerstripesk8 19:39, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Actually, everything I've done so far has been thanks to Strategy Wiki... I do plan on playing the game some time in the near future, though. It looks really fun! — Hylian King ^[*] 20:07, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Oh, I've been using that as a guide, it's not always reliable. And it never has images, a lot of my contributions are requested images. If you do happen to get FPTRR, I highly recommend using desmume or some other emulator to run it on your PC, so you can get great screenshots (That's how I've been doing it). I already passed the Death Bug Chrysalis, and I just can not be arsed to go back and do the whole first continent and then some over again to get that picture. If you happen to get that, 'twould be epic win.

When you start playing, feel free to ask me for hints/help if needed. I'll keep working on pictures and updates for the wiki in the mean time.

P.S. The items page says it's under construction- are you actually working on it or did you just leave the edit page open? Because I'd like to add some items I got pictures of earlier. Tigerstripesk8 23:08, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Oh don't worry. DeSmuME was how I was planning on playing TRR. ;)

I marked the page under construction since it was incomplete and you were working on it. By all means, keep on editing! I put it there for you! — Hylian King ^[*] 07:15, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

My bad, I thought under construction meant someone else was working on it. I'm still new to editing. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerstripesk8 (talk) 19:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, actually it kind of does. Usually if you put up the "Under Construction" template is because you plan on working on the article. I just did it for you this time. — Hylian King ^[*] 17:30, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Image source

Hey Hylian King,

Just wanted to ask you concerning the following two edits you've made: http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=File:TLoZ Link next to a Trap Figure.png&curid=42182&diff=274056&oldid=274039 and http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=File:TLoZ Link Fighting Gleeok Figure.png&curid=42181&diff=274055&oldid=274038

These are pictures made by me personally, hence why I've put myself as the source there. I don't know if you thought I just put myself as a source because 'I found them', or there is another reason, but just wanted to make sure all is clear on that subject.

Since I'm planning on improving the merchandise pages anyway, maybe you can help me with correctly filling out the forms, since they don't appear to include an option for personal photographs.

~cheers Mighty Dekunut 07:21, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm glad you asked. Juts so you know, I am perfectly aware those are pictures are yours. The reason why I made those edits is because there isn't really any need to credit yourself as a source. The source field is more for when an image has been taken from a source other than oneself. If the field is left blank, it's automatically assumed that you procured the image through your own means, as is the case here. Also, we can already tell who it is that uploaded the file through the file history.

You're absolutely right: our current licensing templates fail to mention anything about merchandise. I'll mention it to the staff. For now, I'd recommend filing them under "Copyright images". When in doubt, go for copyright.

Some digital cameras automatically add information to images taken with it, which appears under a section called "Metadata" when uploaded to the Wiki. (Here is an example). This doesn't seem to be the case with your camera, though, so don't worry about it.

By the way, have you considered joining the Zelda Wiki Public Skype Chat? It's a great place to ask wiki-related questions and get to know some of the other users. Not to mention it's a lot more convenient than these talk pages. You're more than welcome to join.

Well, anyways, keep up the good work! Your contributions are much appreciated. :)

PS: If you're planning on working on Merchandise, might I suggest you contact Cipriano? It was originally his project, so perhaps you could work out some kind of collaboration... He's currently away but should return to the Wiki in a week or so. — Hylian King ^[*] 09:36, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Oh, one last thing about upload forms: I noticed that you, like a few others, avoid using internal links (links to other Wiki pages using square brackets) in your file summaries. You are encouraged to use them. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 09:43, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Is This an Appropriate Article?

I know Iconic Quotes from The Legend of Zelda is full of them but do you think it is appropriate to make an article about memes or move the aformentioned artcle to Legend of Zelda Memes? TriforceOfEpicness 14:23, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Good question. Personally, I would rather we keep things the way they are, mostly because some memes (all the ones we have at the moment) are iconic quotes, but not all iconic quotes are memes, if you catch my drift. Did you have any particular memes in mind? Would they be appropriate for the Iconic Quotes article? If not, and the memes are noteworthy, then the creation of such a page might be worthwhile. That's a big "might", though. — Hylian King ^[*] 18:06, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

EDIT: For now, I just made the memes page a redirect to the Iconic Quotes. — Hylian King ^[*] 08:05, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

My warning

"The preview button wasn't the cause, Jo." Ahaha, yeah. I realize that now. :D;; It's sort of become a reflex to give preview button warnings when I see a bunch of consecutive edits. Sorry for the trouble. Jo the Marten^(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 14:30, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Indeed. It's no trouble. In fact, there's a pretty good chance he might not have known about the preview button until you told him. Who knows? You might have saved us from future spamming. :P — Hylian King ^[*] 14:36, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Spam

Hey there Hylian King. You missed afew things last time you were online. :P Just thought I'd bring it to your attention. Jo the Marten^(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 01:12, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

Haha, well, thanks for the heads up, but I'm actually only a patroller. Over here only admins and bureaucrats can delete pages and block users. — Hylian King ^[*] 07:08, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

Crab to Sand Crab and the whole Zazakku thing

I seem to be unable to move Crab to Sand Crab due to what seems to be that annoying redirect glitch. Can you fix that up for me? Also, did we reach some kind of consensus on the naming of those two pages (Zazakku and Hokkubokku)? Once I know what to do I can get on with the work on the pages for them, and thats pretty much all the ALttP enemy renaming done and dusted, at least the major stuff. Thanks! Fizzle 18:07, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

Hm, it appears I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to split the page into two: one for Crab (the animal) and one for Sand Crab (the enemy).

And no, nothing has been decided yet. I just summarized the discussion here, now all we need is for people to vote. If you feel your arguments were misrepresented or have any other problems with my summary, please let me know! — Hylian King ^[*] 19:56, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Yes, I do want to split it into two ideally. I wasn't sure if that would be okay, so I was mainly just suggesting that Sand Crab be the main title and include Crab as a subsection. But if splitting them completely is fine, I should just do that manually then? Haven't tried splitting a page yet. By the way, please check out my Sandbox, I mostly completed the Soldier page, I think it'll help clean up a lot of pages. Fizzle 19:06, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Yep, I discussed it with some of the staff in the Skype chat and they're fine with the Crab split. By the way, have you considered joining the Zelda Wiki Public Skype Chat? It's much easier to communicate with other users via the Skype chat than it is on talk pages. Since a lot of what you do here requires input from other users, I think it would be in your best interest to join.

I like what I'm seeing! However, I'm wondering if there might be any better way to categorize the varieties of soldiers since there are so many. Personally, I would put all the Soldiers (Soldier, Sword Soldier, Spear Soldier, and Bow Soldier) under one section so avoid repeating information that applies to all of them, and have separate paragraphs for describing the different weapons, behavior, and so on. Another section could be dedicated to the Knights (which you seem to call "Assault Soldiers"?). But that's just me.

Also, I'm not sure the mentioning of 2D Darknuts as being Soldiers is a good idea, even though they might be named soldiers in the guide. The "Relation to Darknuts" was a good idea, though. Since that exists to clear up confusion there's really no need to mention Darknuts elsewhere.

Sorry for the late post, by the way. I've been rather busy lately. — Hylian King ^[*] 08:04, 6 November 2011 (EST)

Its no biggie, my activity here is limited to when I can grab a few moments, I'm in no real rush to get anything done, I feel like I'm nearing some kind of conclusion in improving the ALttP enemy sections at least though. I think I'll have to look into joining the Skype thing, yes, I was wondering why so many Talk pages were pretty quiet! Anyway, my naming of the soldiers is based mainly on the Japanese guide. It specifically seperates soldiers by weapon, then further by either color or another term (such as assault). Personally I think thats the best way to go about it too. The shape of their armor is largely irrelevant to their general type, its mainly just a way to distinguish different behavior when a soldier already has the same color and weapon as another (or simply for variety, there's even another unused helmet in the game's code that looks like it would of been used for the weak normal ones). "Knight" is not an enemy in the game, at no point are any of the soldiers called knights, knight is a term saved for the Knights of Hyrule, and creates confusion I think. The enemy listed under Knight is simply a Sword Soldier (Assault) in the Japanese guide (although it uses an incorrect image in the guide, the gameplay data showing health and weaknesses fits the ones in the Castle Tower so I'm 99% sure thats the one), and they have the same armor as the Ball & Chain Soldier, which isn't called a knight. Also, the use of different weaponry defines the differences between the soldiers in FSA as well, and of course the Ball & Chain Soldier is also specifically defined by its weaponry. While it could be possible to group all the soldiers into one without mentioning variations, it would be very messy that way, considering there are a number of differences across games as it is. I'll mess around with the page a bit further though and see what I can do without hurting it, but I honestly think defining the varieties by weapons is definitely the best way to go.

Also, I have a small question, more of a personal curiosity, but I noticed you contributed a lot to the Oracle of Seasons and Ages Translation pages. Do you have access to a Japanese guide, or possibly scans of one? I am really interested in seeing the names of certain enemies and characters in those guides, but I only have access to the ones available on fan sites like Zelda Dungeon and Zelda Legends, so there are no Oracle ones I can find. I found partial scans of one, but it was limited to a few pages, not the whole thing. Anyway, I'll stop clogging up your talk page, thanks for notifying me about your reply! Fizzle 10:09, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Hate to pest you again, but I don't suppose you could use your magic admin powers to move Babasu to Babusu (correct spelling)? Ran into that nasty redirect inability to move glitch. Fizzle 07:25, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Fair enough. I'm just worried that with so many different names (Soldier, Sword Soldier, Assault Sword Soldier, Spear Soldier, Assault Spear Soldier, Tussock Spear Soldier, Bow Soldier, Tussock Bow Soldier) not to mention all the different colors, it might be confusing for many people, so I was wondering if there was any other way to organize them. In any case, you have the essentials down pat. I'd say it's time to publish it. We can always sweat the details later. I recommend naming the page Soldier (Enemy), since Castle Guard will probably be moved to Soldier at a later time.

Sadly, no, I do not possess a copy of the Japanese guides. I used translations from other games for the entire enemy section of those pages (not one of my greatest ideas, in hindsight), since none of the enemies (with the exception of the Fire Pokey, I believe) are unique to the Oracle series. The Japanese names were already on the enemy pages, so I just used those names. I don't know where they came from.

And, no, I can't help you with the page-moving either, unfortunately. Admin powers may be magical, but Patroller powers are somewhat limited. You'll have to ask an actual admin, like Abdullah or Dany. — Hylian King ^[*] 07:37, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Alright, I'll get on that, touch it up a bit and then publish it later. Pakkun has fixed the issue manually anyway (not sure if that was ideal, but eh, minor pages, it worked). Didn't realise you weren't an admin! I don't really pay attention to people's statuses much, I guess I just assumed, haha. You should probably be one really! Anyway thanks, I'll sort that out a bit later and try to cut down on the jargon in it when I get a moment. Stuff like tussock and assault don't necessarily need to be mentioned much. Fizzle 08:41, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Bazaar and the like.

I found on Iwata Asks(Link: Here) That they spoke of the name as if it's a word... but I keep searching and there is no proof not only that on the fan translated version of Mother 3... a store is called Bazaar. Do you know what this is from? Is is some joke that I do not know of... Steahl 12:04, 12 November 2011 (EST)

Not at all. It's just a plain ol' word. A bazaar is a term for "marketplace" commonly used in Middle-Eastern countries. As you'll recall, the shop in OOT is also called the Bazaar. — Hylian King ^[*] 12:27, 12 November 2011 (EST)

Thank you :), I know there was one in OoT. :) Steahl 12:30, 12 November 2011 (EST)

Jason

Have you guys been able to contact Jason as of yet? Or is it still a no go? I find the server was a bit slow yesterday. Steahl 10:20, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Unfortunately not. Jason has proven himself extremely difficult to get a hold of. Rest assured that we're trying the best we can. For the record, the slowdown yesterday might not have been caused by server problems. In fact, given the amount of traffic we're getting lately because of the upcoming release of SS (yay!) a slowdown is perfectly normal. — Hylian King ^[*] 10:35, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Phew about the server)Yay about SS), thing and awww about the contact thing. Well I hope you guys can get him to fix the item maps.. is that what they are called? Steahl 10:38, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Image map. It's an extension that allows us to make cool navigation templates such as this one — Hylian King ^[*] 10:48, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Oh okay :) Steahl 11:10, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Grandisle

If you wont allow me to edit pages without you undoing my edits than allow me to create my own page on the timeline theory. I think you would find my explanation of the timeline easy to understand and makes more sense than any other users timeline theories. I got it all on a word doc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandisle (talk) 05:42, 31 December 2011