Community talk:Clans of the Goddesses (ZU)

Page Rules

Here are some rules I scrapped up.

• Secondary clan names are out. The name that is on the banner is what it will be called on the page.
• No excessive titles for members. Only what is need-to-know.
• No diminishing another clan's section just to get at them. Only take something out if it is invalid content.
• Keep the page in a third person perspective.
• Present information in a clear, short, and to-the-point fashion.
• Use professional language fit for a Wiki.
• Keep all opinions about your clan and others off the page.
• Try not argue too much on the talk page. The wiki is not a place for clan battles.
• Do not write about yourself.
• Do not present information that is pointless to the Wiki (ex: So-and-so is funny when drunk).
• Do not hoarse around. Comedy has its place, but it is not on this article!

Any member that repeatedly breaks these rules may be subject for banning from the wiki for a period of time to be determined by the wiki's staff. Emma ^(Talk) 04:39, December 11, 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality

First of all, Zelda Wiki.org is an encyclopedia. All articles here have to be written a neutral, non-biased point of view. This is not to place to have clan wars or for self-promotion of your own clan. We are about the facts.Emma ^(Talk) 05:58, December 1, 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Matt. I'll edit the Farore Clan's description accordingly, if I may. Karptroopa 12:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going to take a wild guess, and look at Sturgy while whistling... I'll add on anything I can if/once I get the information... Zien 19:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Can I just point out that I know what my own Clan is called, thankyouverymuch? It's the Nayrulian Empire. That's the official name. Pinecodestuff changed it to that. So stop changing it back to "the Nayru Clan", because doing so is, quite simply, stating things that aren't true. His Greatness, God-Emperor SacredSturgeon Ironfin the Magnificent, Supreme Overlord of the Imperium of Nayru and Wielder of the Chainsaw-Bladed Exploding Axe of Wisdom 21:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Why was the "SacredSturgeon declared Nayru an Empire, and the two new mods both took up the title of Emperor of Nayru. While Awkin's role in lording over the Imperium has become largely non-existent, SacredSturgeon still rules over Nayru, and makes it a point to check up on his beloved Empire at least once every day without fail." bit deleted?

The section headings are not the names. It is a quick indicator of which Goddess the clans represent. So that name can go in the first sentence, but not the header or the page intro. And the really long title you are using for your name there is highly inappropriate and I'm going to have to ask you not to use it on the wiki.

That part was removed because it didn't seem to be particularly important. The whole point of all these ZU articles like this is to stop the threads asking what a certain banner means over at ZU.Emma ^(Talk) 22:01, December 1, 2008 (UTC)

I believe it should be kept "The Nayulian Empire", for that is it's technical name. But, all three clan sections (including Nayru) are slightly un-neutral. Like Matt said, please refrain from including personal views on Members and Clans in your posts. I'll be reading over and deleting anything too subjective... as the rest of the Wiki team will, so writing anything lacking in objectivity will be pointless.User:Light Knight/sig19:57, December 4, 2008 (UTC)

Well, until the banners say different. We should stick with just Nayru Clan. Even if I was in that clan myself, this is still what should be done.Emma ^(Talk) 22:53, December 4, 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, the banners is a good point. By the way it has nothing to do with the clan I'm in. As much as I support it, the wiki is the wiki. But, you can't see the clan area, and right on the discussion forum for Nayru, it says Nayrulian Empire... then again, the average wiki reader can't see that either. I suppose it's your decision Matt (obviously), but while "Nayru Clan" is accurate, so is "Nayrulian Empire" technically. User:Light Knight/sig02:10, December 5, 2008 (UTC)

I don't have much experience with the clans myself, but do the other two clans really not have alternate names? From an outsider's standpoint, I just wanna say that I think it's a little inconsistent to have "The Din Clan!" "The Farore Clan!" "The Nayru... lian Empire?" But yeah, the banners say "Nayru Clan", so that makes more sense to me, but I'm not going to make any decisions here mainly because of my lack of having much information on the subject. Just providing some possible extra information to help the decision-making process. —Ando (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this needs a lot of work! I've done a little bit. Also, I've added in one source. Is that enough to remove it from the source lacking category or not? Seen no-one changed the Nayrulian Empire to Nayru Clan I did it, as I think it should be done according to the ZU banners, and seen I'm in the Nayru clan, I think it's fine! {{:User:Melchizedek1866/sig 09:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Just something I wanna say here:

It's "The Nayrulian Empire". That's what it's called. Yes, the banner has "Nayru Clan" on it. The banner pre-dates the name change. The name on the banner is not the name of the Clan. So someone please tell me how you can possibly justify calling the section "Nayru Clan" when it's about the "Nayrulian Empire". It's incorrect information, basically.

Also, while this may be a matter of personal taste as well as a bit nitpicky, is there a reason the Nayru banner was moved to the left? It looked much better on the right.

Emperor SacredSturgeon of Nayru 01:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, it will be decided during the ZWCA (Zelda Wiki Clan Article) Clan Project at ZU. Have you considered getting the banner changed to reflect that name change? Also the reason the banner is on the left is because the banners were changed so they alternated left to right, which is a better layout! {{:User:Melchizedek1866/sig 02:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

One thing to remember is that this is not about your own clan's glory. It is about collecting and organizing as much positive information into a consistent and neutral form. The page title is Clans of the Goddesses. Therefore, it is most informative to have the section headers as simply The [Goddess] Clan. But there is nothing wrong with putting the actual name first in the opening sentence.

For example, see United Kingdom on Wikipedia. Note that the page title is United Kingdom, but the full name is United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is the same thing. The section header will stay as is, and I'll go and rewrite the opening sentence.Emma ^(Talk) 03:21, December 14, 2008 (UTC)
PS: I have membership in Nayru pending.

SacredSturgeon, I really see were you are coming from, as you can see above, I fought for keeping our full name in there, but I can't argue against Matt's logic here. That UK example is great. But we can all discuss this when the time comes once we start the ZWCA. We'll see what can be done to satisfy everyone. User:Light Knight/sig20:46, December 14, 2008 (UTC)