User talk:Emma/Archive 11

This page is an archive of an old Talk Page. The contents have been moved from another page to clear space and to preserve history, so this page is locked from editing. If you wish to ask about the corresponding page, or respond to an earlier message, you may direct any comments to the current talk page. If you wish to refer to a message on this page, link to User talk:Emma/Archive 11.

Editting issue?

My User talk page. Apparantly this person had an issue editing the Shadow Temple page to fix something?? I changed it for him though. - AtrumLevis  (My Talk Page) (My Contributions) 11:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

How to Lock Pages

I hate vandalism. How do you lock others from editing your user page, like you have? --The Keeper of Majora's Mask 23:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It is not exactly a lock. It is more of a trick. Clever programming. It is not exactly easy to explain. For now you will not need it. Unless you really want it. We will not allow people to vandalize your page, or any other page. Any that to are punished.Emma ^(Talk) 23:33, March 3, 2009 (UTC)

Leaving For A Bit

I will not beable to post on Zelda Universe, Zelda Wiki, and the internet itself for a little bit. So, if you have any ideas of me ditching ZW, please remember this. I have not been active as I usually am latly. But, I wanted to tell you this now so you will know, and not try to delete my account, or something. I'll be back in a few weeks or so, but... keep editing! :P User:Austin2862/sig 19:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Something similar has happened to me, and I hope to be back no later than April.— Steve 15:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm?

How come I put something in this wiki, and then someone has to either erase it, or change it????—Preceding unsigned comment added by RupeeLord 00:37, February 13, 2009 (UTC)

1.) Sign your post like this:

~~~~

That will take care of everything. It is all you need to sign.

2.) If an edit is reverted or altered, that means it is not up to our quality standards, or is complete nonsense.Mandi ^Talk 00:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Mandi basically said it. Just remember that no one here is "out to get you". We have a core team of sysops and patrollers that monitor the wiki and look at every edit. We make sure that everything added is of quality. If it is not and we think it just cannot be improved, we remove it. Make sure are aware of what it says at the bottom of a page when editing:

"If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here."

Also be aware of all of our quality standards. Always check your work for accuracy, typos, etc. before submitting it.Emma ^(Talk) 04:42, February 13, 2009 (UTC)

Yup yup. Every piece of information added is checked against our notability standards (which, granted, they're not written-and-set-in-stone quality standards, but anyone who's been around the wiki a while typically gets pretty good at determining whether or not something is notable for the wiki) by the person who checks the edit. I mean, something like "Link has 5 fingers" doesn't exactly seem notable enough to include in his article, right? So that could be a factor.

Another factor might be redundancy -- sometimes people add information that's already been stated within the article. It happens quite often. So someone may have noticed that and then decides to remove the redundant information.

So yeah, following Matt's tips there (always checking your work before submitting) along with maybe spending a bit just browsing and checking out some of the better articles and getting used to the general wiki standards (it's what I did before I started editing, anyway) will definitely help in allowing you to have edits that are much less likely to be undone or reverted. —Ando (talk) 07:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes sir. I just liked how the symbol looks, but I will find another one to use :) By the way, is this how we're supposed to respond to talk page things? Or do I edit my talk page/your talk page? Right now I'm using the little plus by the edit button. -Italiangenius91 (T C) 05:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd just click the edit button. And as it says at the top of this page I prefer to keep it all in one place.Emma ^(Talk) 05:39, March 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry I'm failing so much to read. I see it now. Anyways, that's all on that. -Italiangenius91 (T C) 06:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm still glad you like the symbol. That means I did a good job on it. But it is sort of my avatar. I'm known for it. I would rather not have confusion.Emma ^(Talk) 07:47, March 1, 2009 (UTC)

Templates

Where did you get the Template for "Fan of Spiritual Stone"? Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by The Keeper of Majora's Mask 22:34, 2 March 2009

Well, if you would like to use that particular template, you just type: . Aside from that, the list of userboxes can be found here ;)Mandi ^Talk 22:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Help Guide - Theories

I've noticed this morning more and more people are wanting to know if their theory can be put on the page. It's made me think that a Help Page on Theory Standards would be a good idea, to refer people there.- M E L C H I Z E D E K  (TALK) 19:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

'You' Epidemic

Many pages have the word 'you' instead of 'Link', or the character. We need to stop this before it spreads throughout the entire Wiki. Wait, it already has! Grab your mouse, and powercord... this will be a long day. :P User:Austin2862/sig 16:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, isn't it kinda sad that mostly everything on this wiki is written as if it really did happen in history, or like a story book or something...? RupeeLord 17:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Writing articles in second person perspective is really not recommended. So replacing "you" with "Link" is a good idea.Mandi ^Talk 21:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

RupeeLord: that is called in-universe style. It is how it is supposed to be.Emma ^(Talk) 22:14, March 7, 2009 (UTC)

Search By Date

I could of sworn there was a way to search pages by date of last edit, or something like that. I went to Google, all of the options I can reach with this account, and Media Wiki itself but found nothing. I think I might of done it once, but I don't know. User:Austin2862/sig 19:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm back (again)

If you do remember me, it would be a miracle (I changed my sig but if you can read katakana, you should be fine) I'm back to haunt help ZW. I'm also here to find help with my dilema (I did find a Zelda "_______" name, but the name is taken on webs.com and I can't afford a domain yet so currently I can't create it. The website of the same name hasn't even been updated for years. At least what I can tell). Anyway, I don't think I can contribute much so I will probably only be a WikiGnome... *puts on cap* - Tony^{T S C} 20:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I remember. I actually made my own site in the time since. It is just a forum now. But perhaps one day I'll get my own domain and it will be bigger. The site is The Triforce. It is still not quite done. A lot of work left to do.Emma ^(Talk) 20:38, March 17, 2009 (UTC)

Cool. I hope you have luck with it! A bold approach going the forum route. I'm just going to do some news and game coverage and maybe have a proboards forum to entertain the fans (all 1 of them XD). Maybe you could help me deciding a name for my website (I have the name, just the "www" part). Because I don't want it stolen, I put the name on my User Page. If you think it needs a different name, we can work on it. - Tony^{T S C} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for double-posting. Although the name I would like is taken, I can settle for a hyphen in it. I'll set it up later and 'open' it sometime soon. It's best to get this done before news of Spirit Tracks develops more. - Tony^{T S C} 03:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Protecting Important Achive Pages

Important achives pages like this one should be protected to insure that nothing new is added. Even if nothing new is added, why leave it open to edit? I say that admins should protect such pages. You protected pages like this one, so it should not be any different. User:Austin2862/sig 04:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The template thing should work out. We will look into protecting this page.Emma ^(Talk) 02:37, April 7, 2009 (UTC)

News

New zelda game Source:Hyrule.net there's also a Youtube vid

This is old news. We already have it mentioned on the main page and an article on it, Spirit Tracks.Emma ^(Talk) 07:02, April 7, 2009 (UTC)

Um... sure lets go with that RupeeLord 04:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Featured Picture nomination

Hi Matt. I'd suggest that maybe you should withdraw your nomination of the Morpheel picture; it's been up for around 5 months and doesn't look likely to succeed any time soon... —Adam ^{[ talk ]} 08:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

No. All voting has slowed down considerably. If we start pulling things just because it is going slow we'll never get something new in again. Besides, six people were interested in it. That's not bad.Emma ^(Talk) 17:55, April 18, 2009 (UTC)

Participaton

I want to help edit this site, but I'm fairly new to the Wiki-community and all the pages I visit have nothing to edit.

Could you tell me what to do?

-Wolf O'donnell

Everyone was new once. Start by going here. Read up on some things there. You can try some things in the sandbox. The guides are extensive. But there are likely things missing here and there. You can ask me, or any of the active admins listed here, for more help.Emma ^(Talk) 00:31, May 14, 2009 (UTC)

Transparency

Can you make the following image transparent. Keep the pink ground, Toon Link, and Kirby. As for everything else, make it transparent. (If you could also make the area pink cloud struture on the middle right side transparent, but keep the pink cloud itself... I would be even more greatful. Thanks, File:Thumbnail_3bcceeca0f8656ef844a258af2eed3639ebf6212.jpgUser:Austin2862/sig 19:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

A tad bit beyond my skills. I suggest putting the request here in the last section. I'm more for total background removal. Steve is the one to go to to have certain things in the background left over.Emma ^(Talk) 19:31, May 28, 2009 (UTC)

What if I say just keep Toon Link and Kirby. Perhaps even the thing they are sleepin in, or you could just remove that too. I don't really care. :) I would of put it in that section, but the section is more for images that will stay on the wiki. This image, and the copy (with the removed background) will be deleted. Unless ofcourse, you upload the copy to Photobucket, or something. User:Austin2862/sig 19:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank You!!

Thank you so much for protecting the Great Cataclysm page! Ganondorfdude11 has continuously tried to remove the theory section of the article b/c it does not conform to his own views. I tried to talk to him about it but he refused to compromise. I also tried to report the edit war to another admin. I'm glad you saw it. Thanks again. I hope you will talk to Ganondorfdude11 and tell him to be respectful of others' views. Can you please explain to him that a theory section, if conforming to the specifications and beneath a theory banner, is legal? Link87 04:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Resolving Editing War?

The page for Great Cataclysm has gone through something of an edit war, with Link87 constantly deleting references that contradicted the theory posted in the Theory section. I deleted the theory for not following guidelines, and the user flamed my talk page for posting contradictory evidence. The theory in question was based on a non-canonical manga, but because the user believed it was "widely accepted," it was grounds for being mentioned in the article. I noticed that you locked the page to temporarily cool down the flame war, but what would be the best way to resolve this? Should I bring up the theory in the talk page, as the guidelines suggest?Ganondorfdude11 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Ganondorfdude11 has been vandalizing the Great Cataclysm article by stating that any theory that's not his is "wrong," and is trying to wipe out the entire theory section b/c it does not conform to his views. I even stated that I never said he was wrong, but that he should be respectful of others' views and to live and let live. I posted more than enough evidence to support the theory in question and it was in a legitimate theory section. Ganondorfdude11 has been trying to remove it simply b/c it does not conform to his standards of what theory is right or wrong, and his talk page proves it. And just for the record, he erased his talk page so that what he said could not be visible. I suggest that you look into his page's history and see the kind of comments he was making not only about other theories besides his own but about other Zelda fans as well. Link87 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Why not calm down for a while before continuing arguing with each other. Give yourselves time to cool down. And the staff will talk this through.Emma ^(Talk) 04:47, June 5, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's essential that some of you see some of what was said:

"This is not Zeldapedia, which prints fan theories as articles. Using a non-canon source for a theory is immediate grounds for discrediting it. Facts first, not theories. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum.Ganondorfdude11 04:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)"

"What evidence besides a non-canon manga? I might as well go around claiming that the cartoon is canon. Said other community is a laughable mockery of a wiki. I suggest you go there and put theories everywhere. At least cite some sources and don't delete perfectly legitimate ones I cited.Ganondorfdude11 04:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)"

"If a theory is wrong, it shouldn't be on the page. It is not your personal theorizing page. Bring it up on the talk page before posting it. That's what the guidelines say to do.Ganondorfdude11 04:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)"

Link87 04:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello.

We have decided that, as the Wiki is not a forum, theories are in a bit of a tough spot as far as discernment goes. However, according to Quality Standards on Theories in an Article, it clearly states a few things:

• "Theories are to be reputable, show evidence to support them [...], and have a reasonable amount of support or acceptance within the community. That is, they are not merely personal theories." We have decided that based on this, since a non-canon source would obviously not affect the future storylines of any games, they are irrelevant to theory because a later game could simply refute that theory because its developers would not pay heed to the original source of the theory. We have also decided that whatever theories are on the page now, if they are supported and sourced by games or game manuals or any official Nintendo endorsed, sponsored, or released material, then they are acceptable theories.
• "If an administrator determines that a theory does not meet the specified criteria, it may be removed from the article." We use this as the basis on which we make this decision.

We hope that this is satisfactory to all parties. If editing continues to be out of control, the page will be protected and the users involved may face consequences. -- Xizor 05:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Sacred Realm

Hey Matt, I have something to ask you: Can you unlock the Sacred Realm page so I can continue the work I was doing to rewrite and reinvent it? I was in the middle of working on it when Adam mistakenly thought there was an edit war over the page and there really wasn't, and he locked the page, reverting everything that had been done to it. When I asked him about it, he seemed to act like it was a personal matter b/c of an old edit war that has since been resolved for a different page. I'd like to continue work on it, b/c I wasn't completely done paring down what I'd written or adding everything I had intended to add yet. I hadn't gotten a chance to respond to Dany's comments to state that I was in agreement with him before Adam took it upon himself to lock the page either, so there was really no disagreement about it at all. I agreed that the two sections in question could be pared down and made more specific, and I was going to do that today. But I need the lock removed from the page if Adam himself is unwilling to do it himself. So can you please remove the lock? If you could help out with this, it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks man! Link87 12:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Matt, I appreciate your help and if you'd like to give any input on how you'd like to see the Sacred Realm article in the final product, it'd be greatly appreciated and most welcome. Link87 16:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Try bringing up questions about removed material on the talk pages instead of reverting people's edits. It will get people to act more civil towards you, and will lessen the headache I'm sure you get from the usual way of just reverting the edits over and over.Emma ^(Talk) 17:14, June 10, 2009 (UTC)

Understood, and I agree with what you are saying. Perhaps a certain other person could take lessons from you, but it's all good. I appreciate your help once again, and thank you. Link87 18:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

New

Hi, im really new here and was wondering how to upload a image! On the Gerudo Symbol page it has no images of the original Crescent Moon/Star symbol....and I wanted to put it on that page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grantsaylor (talk) 00:58, June 28, 2009 (UTC)

All that information can be found in the help guide that can be accessed via the link on the side of every page.Emma ^(Talk) 01:10, June 29, 2009 (UTC)

Question

cool. Um... How did you get the image on you user page to go on top of you info like that? smashbrother101 16:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It's just a bit of coding. Did it to fill the empty space there. For the most part it doesn't have much use.Emma ^(Talk) 17:40, July 26, 2009 (UTC)

Still looks cool. smashbrother101 01:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Also um... I have a question... see, I making a custom signature and well... in the help pages, they don't explain about adding colours and what not, so um... could you tell me how to change colours? smashbrother101 01:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

the return of DTF!

i'm back! i thoght i should rerturn for the release of ST. its been awhile... Dragonstetraforce 18:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Notice

See my talk page for my response. And I will say the bottom line here: you can't do anything unless a rule has been broken, and no rules have been broken. So I would not threaten things you can't legally do, especially when yes, I am the one doing the bulk of the writing for that mammoth of an article that some of you wanted done in just a few days, unreasonably. That being said, I don't want there to be enmity between us Matt, I have great respect for you and everyone else, but I will not be bullied either, not by you or anyone when I know I've done nothing wrong. And perhaps you should be saying the same to Ganondorfdude11, who was disrupting work I was doing concurrently on the article and refused to quit despite my pleas that we talk about what we were both trying to do. I am the one that called for a time out, not him. So I think your rash words were unwarranted, and at the least I feel should have been directed at both parties, not one. For the rest of my response, see my talk page. However, I do want it known that I respect you and everyone else, but you will not get anywhere with me by threatening me. So consider this my warning: try and block me for no legitimate reason, and you will receive no further writing or work from me, EVER. We'll see how far that gets you with articles like Hyrule that have been dormant for months or years, which I have been planning to overhaul as well. But I give that as MY warning, that if you try to illegally block me for something that isn't true and when you've clearly shown bias, I will never again do any work for this wiki henceforth. I do not want it to come to that and I do have great respect for all of you, but I expect respect in return as well. Link87 14:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

See my page for my counter-response, and please do us both a favor and quit with illegal threats. Link87 15:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Block Removal Request

Matt, this is Chris. I apologize for having to create a second account to speak to you, but you have given me no chance to speak further on any subject. I have tried to remain cordial with you, and I do not want this to escalate. But I am writing to ask you to please remove the block on my account now, I do not want to take further action but I will if you are not willing to negotiate. I have tried to be patient and explain to you that I am willing to speak to you on a civil basis if only you will be receptive as well. So please, remove the block from my page. I am trying to resolve this with you here and now, but I will seek other admins' help if something cannot be worked out here. I apologize if things have gotten out of hand, but we are both guilty of that. If you will remove the block on my account, I will not take any further action against you. I am asking this politely. Chris87 16:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Wait out the block time. That will show you have maturity and will be seen as an act to improve your relations with other users. Begging is not going to get you unblocked. In a week's time the block will expire. Hopefully you will behave better then. Just keep in mind that blocks are last resorts. We tried negotiating with you several times to no avail. If you wait out the block, we will again try to negotiate with you first if the problem comes up again.Emma ^(Talk) 16:52, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Matt, I am not going to wait a week. If you are not willing to negotiate here, I will leave the wiki entirely, and I do mean that. I am not waiting out an unlawful block however, it's not fair and you know it. I am asking you nicely to please remove the block b/c we both know it's unwarranted. I do not want to take further action against you, I respect you as I have said from the beginning, but you are damaging your credibility with me the more you continue on with this. I have requested a positive dialogue with you, and I am politely asking you to remove the block now before it causes more problems for the both of us. You will not get any further work from me on any of the articles if you keep this block in place, and I do mean that. So before you lose a good editor, I am asking you to think about what you've done and to negotiate here. You did not negotiate with me, you threatened me and did nothing to take the other side to task for escalating the situation. If anyone was guilty of intimidation here, I'm afraid it wasn't me. I have been trying to ask you all along to help us, you've yet to do so. But if you do not remove this block, I will leave this wiki permanently and will only return to take this case to the wiki's creators. If you want me to help finish the Hyrule article and to improve the others I have on my list, then I would hope you would remove this block and let me get on with my job. If not however, I am quitting. Chris87 16:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The only one of the wiki's original creators that still is part of the staff is not responsible for doing anything on the wiki. The admins are responsible for managing the the place and enforcing the rules. This creator, Jason, is not going to listen to a complaint about someone on the wiki staff. He doesn't care about that. And the admins will mostly stand united in this. Once again, you are not above the rules. No matter how many times you try to say you are, that won't make it true.Emma ^(Talk) 17:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I will take the case to Jason regardless Matt, and I don't want to have to do that. However, if you keep this unwarranted block in place, you will lose all credibility with me and I will be pursuing it to him. And no, not all admins will agree I think. I think some would agree you did not approach me in a very good way, that you threatened me and did not negotiate with me. They will see that I have been trying to negotiate with you, and that you have been refusing to negotiate with me in turn. I am asking once again, please remove this block and save us both a lot of trouble. You will restore some credibility with me and will gain even more respect from me if you so do. Fail to act however, I will not work for this wiki again due to this breach of trust between admins and users. I have only ever wanted to help build this wiki and to improve the articles to the best of my ability. If you wish that to continue, you will remove the block now. But if not, you will be costing this wiki a hard worker. I have been cordial and have been open to negotiation here, but if you choose not to return it, it will not be me that is responsible for the long term consequences. May I remind you also that you may not use your admin powers for personal retribution either. I am not trying to sound threatening to you, but I am stating the obvious. I don't want this to do long term harm to our relationship or to the wiki. If you remove the block now, we can avoid any further actions being taken and try to repair the damage that's been done. But if you keep it in place, I will be pursuing it to higher authority and will not work for the wiki any more, it's not right and you know it. Chris87 17:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)