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Latest comment: 17 March 2020 by Argentum kurodil in topic When did they form?
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Yiga Language

When a Yiga Footsoldier executes a downthrust, a set of nine glowing symbols appear around him before he teleports. In the Champion's Ballad DLC, Monk Maz Koshia similarly uses a set of nine glowing Sheikah letters before some attacks. These letters appear to be gibberish: going clockwise from the top it spells "RPTSKJRZZ." Note that the 1st and 7th as well as the 8th and 9th pairs of letters are identical. The interesting thing is that Yiga use the exact same pattern of symbols, implying that the one alphabet is based on the other. It also means we have English translations for seven unique Yiga letters. Right now this information only qualifies as trivia but if anyone knows if Yiga symbols are used elsewhere in the game, this might be expandable. - Nerdyarchimedes (talk) 23:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We cannot know for sure that the Yiga's attack animation symbols represent the same English letters as Maz Koshia's animation. We also cannot guarantee that the developers created any official meaning behind any of the Yiga's symbols. Instead of trivia, it can be briefly mentioned on the Yiga Footsoldier's page when this attack is described. As for Maz Koshia's attack, I think the translation of the gibberish Sheikah letters is valid trivia. Very nice observation though. Hylian pi (talk) 00:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, the Yiga's attack just uses the Hylian characters from ALBW and BotW so we can translate it. The actual symbols in the Yiga attack appears to have some added flair that's applied randomly to the letters but it could be translated as "FPJSKJFOO" (the two Fs and Js appear different but F and J is still how I would translate them). However, as six of those symbols have two possible meanings (F/R, J/T and O/Z), there are 64 possible ways to interpret it. Given the translation of Monk Maz Koshia's attack is a valid translation of the Yiga attack, it's possible that they used the exact same gibberish letters for both attacks. Link Lab (Talk) 13:38, 26 December 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for identifying the language. I'll go ahead and add that info in the appropriate places. - Nerdyarchimedes (talk) 22:24, 26 December 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

When did they form?

I think it is reasonable to say that we don't know at which point they were formed, but it was at some point before Calamity Ganon attacked 100 years ago. Members of the Yiga clan attack Zelda (according to Zelda's diary and the "Blades of the Yiga" memory) before Calamity Ganon attacked 100 years ago. Of note is also the fact that Cado refers to Ganon's return 10,000 years ago as Great Calamity. So the term Great Calamity can refer to both appearances of Ganon (10,000 and 100 years ago) and we have to see the context to determine the period that the quotes refer to. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There may be a self-contradiction in the game. According to Paya (as quoted in the "Great Calamity" page), the Yiga clan actually formed after the victory of Calamity Ganon, so sometime during Link's 100-year slumber. But in this case, how can the Yiga appear in the Link flashbacks and attempt to murder Zelda? --hellpé (talk) 19:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The divide of the Sheikah was 10000 years ago, after the victory against the first great Calamity. Some remained loyal to the Royal Family, and settled where Kakariko Village is now. Other Sheikah loathed them for the betrayal against the technology that saved the world. This made them swear allegiance to Calamity Ganon, as both shared a common enemy. These lot remained out of sight and mind for many millennia, but still held their views and their blasphemous symbol.
Just over 100 years ago, the signs of the Calamity's resurrection were indisputable. The latest member of the leading militant family for at least 4 generations, who inherited the title of Kohga from his forefathers, saw this and gave the militant group a name for Hyrule to know: the Yiga Clan. They stopped hiding and became active and notorious, but were pushed back to an abandoned Gerudo archaeological site by the other folk of Hyrule.
Basically, the group who support Ganon have existed for 10000 years, but has been known as the Yiga Clan for 100 years. Argentum kurodil (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speculation and unsourced text in the article

Some text in the article is speculative or lacks sources. Can someone confirm if these are valid?

1) "They are known for stealing information and supplies from the Gerudo Tribe." Yiga stole the Thunder Helm. Any quotes that say they stole information and supplies?

2) "This happens more often after Link invades their hideout and defeats their leader, Master Kohga." Zeldafan1982 (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yiga trivia

How is creating a champion not a valid source of citidation? Are you suggesting that the book in not canon or what? I took quotes DIRECTLY from the book to back up the claims I made.
Argentum kurodil (talk) 16:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Citations from books should not use the regular cite template, which is only made for in-game citations. We have a specific template for citing from books, Template:Cite Book. TriforceTony (talk) 16:20, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]