Talk:Wind Dungeon

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Shouldn't this page be titled, "Air Dungeon" or "Wind Dungeon"? I don't know about you guys, but when I hear "Sky Dungeon," I think of dungeons like the Palace of Winds and the City in the Sky, not dungeons like the Wind Temple and the Tower of Hera. Sir Real 16:23, 2 April 2011 (EDT)

Hmm, good question, but Sky Dungeon seems to fit the criteria considering all of these dungeons are located in the sky ;)Mandi ^Talk 21:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. I guess the Tower of Hera and the Ancient Ruins are technically in the sky, considering that they're on top of mountains, but wouldn't that make a lot of other dungeons Sky Dungeons as well? Also, the Wind Temple isn't in the sky, it's underground. Sir Real 15:43, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

The Tower of Hera and the Ancient Ruins are also really tall towers, "sky-scrapers", if you will. They're in the skies, so therefore they are sky dungeons and other dungeons on top of mountains are not. "Sky Temple" encompasses all these dungeons better than any other term does; all the wind dungeons are in the sky, but not all the dungeons themselves actually have a wind theme. The Wind Temple is really the only exception. We could say "Air Dungeon", but that seems like too general a term to me.

So here's the rundown: We have to choose between keeping it as "Sky Dungeon", or changing it to "Wind Dungeon or "Air Dungeon". "Air Dungeon" doesn't really identify any of them all that well; "Wind Dungeon" identifies some of them properly; "Sky Dungeon" identifies all of them pretty well, with one exception.

I'm leaning towards keeping "Sky Dungeon". — Hylian King ^[*] 16:50, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

But wait, if merely being a skyscraper is enough to make something a "sky dungeon," then wouldn't it encompass a lot more dungeons? For example, a few other that could be called skyscrapers would be Hyrule Castle Tower, the Tower of the Gods, the Palace of Twilight(which is even floating), the Tower of Spirits, Stone Tower, the list goes on.

There are also quite a few dungeons that definitely qualify as wind dungeons, but not sky dungeons. To name a couple, the Fortress of Winds(well, yeah, but it has wind in its title) and the Temple of Wind from Phantom Hourglass. I really don't think these should be excluded just for being underground; if they're excluded, the Wind Temple should be, too. Sir Real 23:10, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say, Sir Real, but it doesn't really matter. Looking back, the elements template should only be used to identify the themes of the actual dungeon, not its surroundings. A Sky theme bases itself entirely on surroundings, which is not what we want to do. Therefore, perhaps it should be changed to "Wind Dungeon", which would better encompass the dungeons who carry that theme. Any dungeons that aren't wind themed and are there simply because they're "in the sky" (i.e. Tower of Hera, Eagle's Tower, Ancient Ruins) can be removed, that way we can avoid a lot of debating as to what qualifies as a "dungeon in the sky". It's simply a matter of mentioning on this page that wind dungeons are usually found in the sky.

Of course, the icon will have to be changed to something more appropriate for all Wind Dungeons... — Hylian King ^[*] 06:56, 8 April 2011 (EDT)

As you can see, the change has been made from "Sky Dungeon" to "Wind Dungeon". Sir Real, your wish has been granted. :P

I removed the Tower of Hera and the Ancient Ruins (although the Essence earned from it is called "Blowing Wind") because the dungeons themselves are not actually wind-themed. I kept the Eagle's Tower because of the boss fight, and because the article currently makes reference to it as being the first wind dungeon. The Realm of the Heavens was also removed because it's not even a dungeon. On the other hand, I added the Temple of Wind from Phantom Hourglass, but not the Fortress of Winds, because, despite it's name, there doesn't really seem to be anything wind-themed about it at all.

I hope everyone finds these changes to be acceptable. — Hylian King ^[*] 12:29, 9 April 2011 (EDT)

I largely approve of this, with one exception. I've removed Eagle's Tower because there's really nothing wind-themed about it aside from one move the boss uses. I don't think that's enough to justify calling the dungeon wind-themed, any more than the Helmaroc King's wind attacks make Forsaken Fortress wind-themed. (Or, for that matter, the Helmasaur King's fireball attack makes the Palace of Darkness fire-themed or Vitreous's lightning attack makes Misery Mire electricity-themed, etc.) I know you're a higher authority here, so change it back if you really think it should be on the page, but if you do so I humbly request that you tell me why.--Osteoderm Jacket 06:30, 13 January 2012 (EST)

Should there be any mention on this page of the Forest Temple in OoT being the Wind Temple during early development?--Osteoderm Jacket 06:22, 13 January 2012 (EST)