Talk:Light World

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Latest comment: 1 February 2014 by KrytenKoro in topic Is our view on the Light World wrong?
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Other Lands

Should Holodrum, Labryanna, Termina, and other lands be considered part of the Light World? Since they're on the same plane as Hyrule. - AtrumLevis  (My Talk Page) (My Contributions) 10:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think they should. I'm under the impression that anything that is not in the Dark Realm or the Twilight Realm is part of the Light World by default. -Bodo, Sage of Obsession 14:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Redirect

What was the idea of that redirect, Cipriano? And no discussion?Alter  {T C B H } 04:23, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

My thinking is that whenever the "Light World" is mentioned or referenced it always is synonymous and in context with the standard world of Hyrule, as it is in 'A Link to the Past, Four Swords Adventures, Twilight Princess, etc. In that idea, since the Light World is Hyrule, I felt it would make the most sense as a redirect page, because what we'd probably be putting on this page is identical to what is on the Hyrule page. But hey, lets discuss. — ciprianotalk 18:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I vote for it to be redirected to Hyrule, Termina, Labrynna, and Holodrum Sephiner 19:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding it to Zelda Definitions

This article is short, what about a merge with Zelda Definitions? Jeangabin 07:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Saving this page

As you can see above on this page, there have been multiple attempts to decide the fate of this page, whether it's to simply redirect it to the Hyrule page or make a small section for it in the Zelda Definition page. However, I think that this page should be able to stand on its own; it just needs significant improvement, which is possible, albeit probably difficult.
So, what can we do to save the page? What should we include in it that will contribute it its originality? What does it need to have in order to accurately describe the Light World for what it is? I have a few ideas, but I'd like to hear other people's input first. - TonyT S C 17:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree this page can stand on its own, but to do that, it's going to need to focus on ALttP and possibly a little of TP. It's directly called the Light World in ALttP, and Midna calls it the world of light in TP. So...the problem we face is: how to buff up this page without re-stating a bunch of stuff from the Hyrule article?
If this can be done, then heck yeah, let's keep the article. But if it can't...it may go under.User:Justin ZW/sig 21:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

References!

"The name "Light World" applies to lands such as Hyrule, Holodrum, Labrynna, and Skyloft."

When was Holodrum described as the Light World? When was Labrynna? If there are any direct references that prove that point, keep that sentence on the page. If not, I'll get rid of it. —Darkness(Talk) 00:28, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well...there may not be direct references, but Holodrum and Labrynna are not in the Dark Realm, and they're certainly not in the Twilight Realm, so I'd say that can stay.
As far as this page goes...I'm starting to think it'd serve better as a disambiguation page. The article isn't going to get much better than this, and there really isn't much to say without making it a rewrite of Hyrule. *sigh*User:Justin ZW/sig 00:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Future of this article

Okay, as HK said earlier this month...this article's in the crapper. It's not getting better, and I just don't see it arising to greatness, so here's what I propose:

  1. We make it a disambiguation page which gives a short description and links to Holodrum, Labrynna, Hyrule, and Termina.
  2. We redirect it to Hyrule.

Either one of these will suit me just fine, although I like the idea of a disambig page a little more, as it provides room to say that it's the opposite of the dark world and that Hyrule is called this several times.User:Justin ZW/sig 00:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I voted to repurpose it back in 2009, and after three years, not much has changed. Justin, I agree, a nice disambig would do this page well. — ciprianotalk 04:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I strongly disagree. Permit me the necessary time and I will see what I can do about improving it. - TonyT S C 06:18, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you really think you can do this without turning it into copypasta, go for it. But I would like for something to be done soon, because this article is a disgrace right now.User:Justin ZW/sig 06:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't see what content this page could have that couldn't (or isn't already) covered in Hyrule/Appearances by Game, Overworld, and even Dark World. But I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt, Pakkun. — Hylian King [*] 11:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is our view on the Light World wrong?

In A Link to the Past Ganon turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World, and then Hyrule was said to be the Light World. In Twilight Princess Hyrule is simply called "World of Light" which does not mean it is the Light World, but a world in which has Light in it (in contrast to the Twilight Realm). Does that mean the Light World should be used to describe Hyrule on the Fallen Hero Timeline and not Hyrule in the other timelines? Dark Mirror's Link (talk) 15:51, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I personally believe that even that definition is a little shaky. The term "Light World" has only ever been used once throughout the entire Zelda series. I honestly don't think that Midna using the phrase "world of light" (note the lack of capitalization) to describe Hyrule counts. If anything, "Light World" is simply a phrase that Sahasrahla used to help differentiate between Hyrule and the Dark World in A Link to the Past. It doesn't refer to Hyrule on the Fallen Hero Timeline—or any timeline, for that matter—and certainly doesn't refer to the entire universe in which the majority of the Zelda series takes place. Just like "The Surface" or "world of light," I believe it's just a way to distinguish between two different locations within the same game. Dannyboy601Talk 16:49, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In that case then the Light World is a simple nickname that describes simply the the difference between the Dark World and Hyrule. If that is the case, then I do not think that this page should exist. Dark Mirror's Link (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It means "the bit that isn't the Sacred Realm or another dimension". The official website defines it as appearing in every game up to The Minish Cap, at which point they stopped updating the encyclopedia. Pretty straightforward.KrytenKoro (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]