Talk:Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper

Name

Well I'm not set on the name. Giving him a Keaton Mask is optional. So it's not exactly the best descriptive name. We'd be better off with Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper as the name. It's a more neutral descriptive name as it doesn't refer to an optional quest. Also, I'd point out that the boy in the graveyard saying he asked for a Keaton Mask from his dad too doesn't make this guard his dad. The mask is described as being highly popular. Emma ^(Talk) 16:38, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper name is better for this article, even if it is a bit too long. :P Dany36 (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I have hesitate on the name. I choose Keaton Mask Guard because people know him for the mask he wears, but if you want to move go! Jeangabin (talk) 19:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

We have an Encyclopedia term now! (Note) — 𝐌𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐜𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧𝟏𝟎𝟎𝟎 ^{(𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤)} 01:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Son's Identity

The Graveyard Boy page calls the Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper the boy's father, but on this page it says his son is unnamed and doesn't like to the Graveyard Boy's page. So what's the verdict on this inconsistancy?? I personally thought it was understood that they were related, (he says his boy wanted him to get the Keaton mask, and when you show the mask to the boy, he says he asked his dad to get one) but apparently others think differently... —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 16:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I also think it's clearly implied that the graveyard boy is his son: there no other kid in kakariko village, he asked his father to get him a Keaton Mask (no other man than the guard seek for a Keaton Mask), he leaves near the gate to the Death Mountain Trail, and they both disappear after castle town is destroyed. Jeangabin (talk) 16:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, he says that? Hmmm...well... I guess that sounds like the Graveyard Boy could really be the guard's son. Maybe we could put that quote as a reference? Dany36 (talk) 16:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Um... a big huge no here. He doesn't name anyone as his father. He merely says he asked his dad for that mask too. The mask is described as being very popular. It would be wrong to make the assumption that just because they talk about the same thing that they have to be father and son. Notice that the guy never takes off the mask. A more likely assumption, if we must make an assumption, is that there never was a son and he just wanted the mask himself. It'd make sense because guards would be expected to have more maturity. Emma ^(Talk) 06:19, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

After selling him the Keaton mask, every time you talk to the guard, he thanks Link and says his son will be happy (eventhought he is wearing the mask). The mask being very popular is more a reference to its resemblance with Pikachu. And if it isn't the Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper, who other man seek for a Keaton Mask in Kakariko?! Jeangabin (talk) 07:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Admittedly, because these characters are nameless, there will always be room for doubt, but rather than pick apart the "what if"s I think we need to consider what the game creators intended here. Why would they put in such a huge coincidence if this conclusion was not to be gathered from the insinuation? And Jeangabin makes a good point. It would make sense that the little boy saying "I asked my daddy to get me one too" is meant to be a clue as to whom the mask should be offered. —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 12:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Revisiting this. The Encyclopedia in its Character Relationships section for Ocarina of Time, doesn't connect the Death Mountain Trail Gatekeeper and the Graveyard Boy at all. Other family relationships like Malon and Talon or the Master Craftsman/Granny/Cucco Lady/Master Craftsman's Son family are all otherwise noted. Is this an oversight or are we making an incorrect assumption? Bardtard72 (talk) 16:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Because Encyclopedia doesn't connect the two, them having no relationship would be considered canon. — 𝐌𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐜𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧𝟏𝟎𝟎𝟎 ^{(𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤)} 01:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)