Talk:Dark Interlopers
Dark Link SSBB
Um...shouldn't that picture of Dark Link from SSBB be taken out? I don't think it really has anything to do with Twilight Princess, not to mention that SSBB itself is considered to be noncanon. Dany36 18:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- It was on the page before I edited it. I don't know. But it's similar to the Dark Interlopers in TP, in terms of looks. =/ You can do what ya want. :P - AtrumLevis (My Talk Page) (My Contributions) 18:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Theories
There are all these theories about the interlopers and barely anything is mentioned here. Shouldn't we atleast mention them? -- Ember Incubus -- 05:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Video
I clicked it, it apparently was removed due to "Terms of use violation". Goddamn Viacom. Should we look for another one?--FlareKitsune 02:06, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Done. Ganondorfdude11 02:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Aha! Danke my hard-hatted friend~--FlareKitsune 18:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Adam and Eve?
Anyone else think that comparing the dark interlopers to adam and eve is a bit of a stretch....? Namelink 05:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)NameLink
- Well Link and Ilia but yes, it is quite a stretch, the basic structure of the "hero's jouney" isn't mentioned at all on Link's page and that would be more relelvant than parallells to a religion that was throughly removed from the series after the first couple games. PureLocke 20:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Entirely a stretch. 1) There's a bunch of other versions of what the tree in Genisis is supposed to be, just like there are mutiple versions of Genisis in the multiple versions of the Bible. For example; Tree of Life, Tree of Knowledge, sometimes has added "knowledge of good and evil". 2) Japan is mostly Bhuddist, so Christian iconography, if ever and with actual intent, is taken at face value; Yu-Gi-Oh once had crosses in the anime, but they were just crosses (which 4-kids made into Monoliths), because here in the states, the majority of the population is at very least vaguely familair with the Abrahmic cult's symbolism, if not a member. In the first game, Link's Big Shield had a cross because Miamoto must have seen a picture of a European knight (of which, the style in the armor, weapons, technology, and geography has been the bassi throughout the Zelda series), and thus, may have seen a picture of a Crusader with a cross-emblemed shield. 3) The day-glo snake says, at the end of the cutscene, what the blank-eyed (yes, "Blank" is a better word. "Clear-eyed" usually is used to described very blue eyes, or someone who's perspective is enlightened in some way) murder spree was: corruption in the face of being overwhelmed by power. 4) The bible-humper who wrote that failed to complete the analogy by writing what the Interlopers/Dark Links represent, or Link being 'deleted' and his body/soul/something beign stolen (FYI: I think it's innacurate to say that "Link is on their side"; Links eyes are normal just before he gets blasted, and the Interloper's eyes are still blank. I also hate that "Tower of Babel/Babil is the Stone Tower in Termina" theory for having so many presumptions and holes (and, as addressed above, "Hero's Journey" is more the common thread, as well as in any story in literary history, not "just the myths of the bible"). Hell, if anything about that story is Abrahamic, it's that the three Interlopers represent Christianity, Islam, and Judism, how that they view that any other conflicts as inconsequential to theirs, and how those religions (claim to) have powers beyond that of normal men, then use those powers (ie: socio-poltical clout) to destroy humanity, and then continue their acts in the guise of being "for the people." --Xu-kitty 02:14, 10 September 2010 (EDT)
#general on Discord.The Cult
Sorry if this is out of place I'm a little sleepy but if it is indeed true on the Dark Interlopers being a cult of different cultures who banded together could that be then that some members of the Sheikahs and Gerudo fell into this cult? I mean they were locked up as a group in a dark world and maybe decided to make their own race and call it twili. Plus could explain the tear in the eye of the Sheikahs symbol, could mean the betrayal which some members fell into this cult. My explanation is that the sheiks were close to the royal family and they were close to the sacred realm so maybe some got possessed and turn into this cult along with some Gerudo who were probably following ganon who too was in it for the triforce. (Oh and I'm a noobie sorry if it came out wrong I'm using an itouch on this)
- Interesting theory, but could you please take it to a forum? Talk pages are meant to discuss the article on the subject, not the subject itself. Also, you forgot to sign. --K2L (Interrogatory) 12:22, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
The missing Triforce
I think it is very important to underline, that the Triforce in the backstory of Lanayru dissappeared in the end. Yes the light spirits sealed away the fused shadow and the Dark Interlopers were banned into the Twilight, but the Triforce was never mentioned to be removed by either the goddesses or the light spirits in the end!
But the vision clearly emphasizes on the last moment of the Dark Interlopers and on the stylized Sacred Realm, which is totaly empty.
So here is the theory about the divine fluke:
We know from OoT that the Shiekah tell about the legend, that everyone with an unrighteos heart who touches the Triforce, will trigger to shatter it and it will be given to those persons who were destinied to obtain them.
So Ganondorf,(Zelda, Link) got his/her piece because of the Interloperes interference? It is highly possible!
~~Hero of Courage~~
#general on Discord.Trivia Citation?
Has anyone found a citation for the Trivia point yet? As it is "Trivia" and not part of the main article, citations are a must. I would hate for it to go if accurate (as I am part of a forum that deals with Zelda Theorizing), but would also like a higher quality article. Dark Mirror's Link (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Getting a citation would potentially necessitate a 1:1 comparison between JP and EN text, which I don't think exists. We also don't have anyone directly on hand who can fluently read Japanese well enough to confirm the claim at this time, so I'm not certain when we would be able to confirm or deny it. - TonyT S C 00:31, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Move to Interlopers?
The term "Dark Interlopers" doesn't appear in the script. They are referred to as interlopers, once, in Lanayru's tale. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 19:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Race and Members
I read page 30, and the wording does not sir easy with me. I can't tell whether it implies that they are one of the Hylian groups mentioned in the first paragraph or not. From my reading, it seems they are just some miscellaneous Hyrulean race. I also believe that Cia, from Hyrule Warriors, is an interloper. On the first mission of Cia's tale, a Goron Captain called her an interloper. Her Sceptre's quick YYX attack summons a few of the shadowy Link figures commonly associated with interlopers. 4 of these are also seen during her victory animation. Argentum kurodil (talk) 16:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- I might also add that the interlopers are known for their magical prowess, a factor which Cia does not lack. They seem to have some fascination with the triforce, which Cia/Lana watched over. Lana would also be one, as they were the same person. When Lana first "revealed" her connection to Cia, she claimed they were from the same clan, implying racial separation from the Hylians and Sheikah she was speaking to. Argentum kurodil (talk) 16:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- The citation you've provided doesn't match term conditions.
- In addition to being the name of this group, "interloper" is a real word. It's evident that they're using it as the real word, not in reference to the group from the backstory of Twilight Princess.
- The only instance we've seen the Dark Interlopers is with figurative imagery. They very clearly didn't all resemble Link or have anything to do with him. The beings that Cia summons are Dark Links, nothing more.
- The Dark Interlopers are not a race. They were a group with a common goal who eventually were banished for that goal.
- Cia and Lana's goals have nothing to do with that and they are not banished. Their clanship also doesn't inherently set them apart racially from any other group. TriforceTony (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'm aware that interloper is a word, and I thought nothing of it until I saw the Dark Link figures. I thought, since that is the only form they area seen as, that that would be the recognised face of the interlopers, even if it's not their physical form. But to suggest that Lana is a hylian instead also seems somewhat ludicrous. The Sorceress was likely a deity: not a mere mortal, but not an omnipotent god like the golden goddesses. ("Deep in the forests, far from mortal eyes, a great sorceress watched over the balance of the Triforce. Through her magic, she could see across ages, able to read the fates of all who lived, but never interfering.") I'm sure you know what I mean by this: beings like The Great Deku Tree. You have supposedly invalidated my evidence to them being Interlopers, so I suggest not allocating a race to Lana and Cia; they seem to not fit the category for the common races. Argentum kurodil (talk) 16:44, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that's a false equivalence. Their powers don't necessarily negate them being part of a given race, and certainly don't equate them to gods or spirits. TriforceTony (talk) 00:38, 13 February 2020 (UTC)