Talk:The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

If you go to zelda.com (I think it's the official site) and go to the encyclopedia, look under P and find "Pendants of Virtue". It will say:

"The Pendant of Courage, the Pendant of Power and the Pendant of Wisdom are collectively known as the Pendants of Virtue. When Link returned from his adventure in Termina, hundreds of years had passed in Hyrule and the Master Sword was hidden within the Lost Woods. To re-prove himself and demonstrate that he was worthy of the Master Sword, Link had to collect all three Pendants of Virtue."

They say a lot of things. Its not necessarily canon so much as it is their way of trying to explain things.

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Placement in the Timeline

This would be interesting if this Link was the Oracle Link, it would place OoS/OoA right in between LttP/LA and LoZ/AoL, and my timeline would be perfect!

And why is timeline stuff on this page anyhow?? The section for Ports and Remakes reads like a timeline argument. If someone tells me this is official, I'll leave it alone. If not, I'll rewrite this after lunch.Axiomist 20:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

An excellent observation, and I agree. If you'd like to re-write this then please, do so. User:Ando/sig 00:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I added that OoT was made as prequel to LttP, so its placement became unclear only after the release of Wind Waker! I also deleted the reference to Link's Awakening. Yeah, I know, it was probably made as a sequel to this game, but it's not 100% sure, as Miyamoto said it could take place anytime after OoT, so if you want to talk about LA, do it on LA's timeline section.--Kombatgod 09:47, 16 February 2011 (EST)

All Pages

Question about the All Pages page on the left side. Why do we have 3 A Link to the Past links that all the lead to the same page? --Josh 21:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Those are redirects. They are for when people search for the game in the search bar and they don't type it exactly right.User:Matt/sig 22:36, December 8, 2008 (UTC)

ALttP Interview

Hello everyone! I recently came upon a translated Japanese interview of ALttP. I saw it on Kotaku and it gives some insight into the development of the game way back when. Here's the URL: <http://www.glitterberri.com/a-link-to-the-past/the-men-who-made-zelda>. The interview is quite entertaining as well. Give it a read if you like. :3 UnknownEnigma 01:40, 1 June 2011 (EDT)

Timeline placement

The timeline placement section mentions that Link in ALttP, OoX and LA are all the same Link. It also mentions that OoS comes first over OoA. Did Hyrule Historia confirm any of those specifics? The Goron Moron 03:11, 4 January 2012 (EST)

This was confirmed by Hyrule Historia: <http://www.zeldainformer.com/2012/01/hyrule-historia-translations-reveal-new-information.html/>--Password 03:27, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you Password. Also I just want to point out that I don't really want to see the timeline section being outright replaced again. There was nothing wrong with the old section, and I frankly found the "newer" one to be badly written. I have since gotten the older section back. If someone has a problem with it, I'd prefer they take it to the article's talk page first, seriously. The Goron Moron 16:59, 4 January 2012 (EST)

The Imprisoning War vs Hyrule Historia?

Unless I am mistaken, which I really hope I am not, there is a contradiction between a game manual and the Hyrule Historia, and both sides are seen on this site as being true in different areas.

When we look at the Imprisoning War (according to A Link to the Past manual on page 5) we see that Ganondorf lead a band of thieves into the Sacred Realm, killed them, then took the Triforce. "In a long running battle, the leader of the thieves fought his way past his followers in a lust for the Golden Power. After vanquishing his own followers, the leader stood triumphant over the Triforce and grasped it with his blood- stained hands."

Now we look at Hyrule Historia page 92 and see that Ganondorf took the Triforce pieces from Link and Zelda. It then says that the sages led by Zelda sealed Ganondorf and the Triforce into the Sacred Realm. Then when we look at page 93 it says that the Sacred Realm was already the Dark World by the time it stated.

Both of these cannot be true, and which one we decide is true also would have to decide where the Fallen Hero timeline started. If we go with the manual, then the Triforce cannot have been obtained yet, meaning Link would have had to fail as a child, before even finding the Master Sword. If the Hyrule Historia is the one we take as truth then Link would had to have died as an adult, after the pieces of the Triforce are in Hyrule (With Ganondorf, Zelda, and Link). This would affect this page and MANY others, but I do not think we can ignore this. Dark Mirror's Link (talk) 21:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

OoT retconned ALttP; his "army of thieves" is to be taken as the Gerudo that he oppressed. The Historia agrees with the version given in OoT, which is the most recent version of that event.KrytenKoro (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

But the Hyrule Historia says that he obtained the pieces of the Triforce by defeating Link. The Imprisoning War, which takes place after the Hero falls, says he lead his army of thieves (Gerudo) into the Sacred Realm to obtain the Triforce, meaning that he did not defeat Link to do so. They do not fit together as the Imprisoning War would happen only if the Sacred Realm was not opened in Ocarina of Time as Ganondorf enters the Sacred Realm when Link opens it and the Triforce is then claimed. Link was safe after pulling the Master Sword meaning he could not have fallen then, but would have fallen BEFORE he initially pulled the Master Sword. Ocarina of time introduced the timeline split, the Hyrule Historia mentions the Fallen Hero timeline. If we look at the Imprisoning War we see that Link must have fallen as a kid. Ocarina of Time does not change that. Dark Mirror's Link (talk) 15:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

According to Nintendo, Link gets to Ganon's Tower in both timelines. The difference is whether he defeats Ganon. The Imprisoning War is set [i]after[/i] that, where Link fell and the Sages had to rally against Ganondorf. OoT basically "clarifies" the story of simply fighting all his soldiers to the story of how he oppressed the Gerudo, attacked Hyrule, and slew Link and Zelda. Ganon finds the Sacred Realm, enters it, and finds the Triforce. OoT adds "...but loses two pieces of it, attacks Hyrule and obtains the others, then is sealed back in the Sacred Realm by the Sages." Everything else in the ALttP manual proceeds as before, including the additional seal on the Sacred Realm itself.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the manual precede over the Hyrule Historia? We can't say the events of Ocarina of Time are the same as what is described in A Link to the Past's manual as Ganondorf never lead an army or group of thieves into the sacred realm. It also says that Ganondorf killed his followers, but in Ocarina of Time Link killed them and the Gerudo no longer seem to serve Ganon by the time Link goes to Ganon's Tower. If we are to say that the Hyrule Historia is second only to the games then we have to evaluate everything in other sources that are considered canon to make sure there are no inconsistencies there either.