Talk:Skull Kid

I think that the Skull Kid from Majora's Mask is the same Skull Kid as the one Link gave the Skull Mask to, in Ocarina of Time. Maybe Skull Kid attacked the Happy Mask Salesman because he wanted one the masks he was carrying and was then drawn to the power of the Majora's Mask. Link of Vey 3/7/08

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Yes I think that they are the same too. A lot of people do. But, unfortunately, there is no way to prove this. However, the statements in Majora's Mask made by the Skull Kid strongly suggest that they are one and the same. We may never know for sure, unless one of the developers comes out and says it.User:Matt/sig 14:25, July 3, 2008 (UTC)

I thought that it was pretty cut-and-dry, really. I mean, what more can you want? For him to just straight up say "You taught me Saria's Song :D :D :D"? Many things in the Zelda games are implied and accepted, and this is easily one of the most heavily-implied and impossible to disprove things I've seen yet. User:Ando/sig 20:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Way back when, I took part in a debate on this issue on the Gamewinners.com Zelda forum. Just about everyone there was thoroughly convinced that the Majora's Mask Skull Kid was not the same one in Ocarina of Time. At the time, uh, my debating skills were not up to par with how they are today. The debate dragged on for about two years. The few of us that thought that they were the same Skull Kid were beaten. Not by the other's sides logic, which was lacking, but because of the overwhelming number of people against us. Therefore, my side just fled from the battle, defeated. That debate made our little one here about "Midna Art" look like child's play in comparison. It was truly epic.User:Matt/sig 20:32, July 3, 2008 (UTC)

What the...? What, were they using logic like "He might not have been talking about Saria's Song" or something equally... not... good (I'm tired and lacking a proper vocabulary)? That's a pretty crazy argument, I wish I could have seen it. But I think that nowadays we pretty much all know that they're one and the same, yeah? User:Ando/sig 20:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much. Link looking for Navi or not in the beginning of Majora's Mask cropped up a few times in the debate too. The side opposing me had the same view of that as they did for the Skull Kid. Even though the in-game evidence strongly suggested that both of those theories were true, they failed to use their brains and look at the logic. Dumb people. I didn't say much on Navi then because I felt that the Skull Kid being the same was the stronger of the two theories. I don't think that the debate even exists anymore. I don't think that Gamewinners keeps their old forum topics that long. It has been... five years since the debate ended, I think.User:Matt/sig 20:49, July 3, 2008 (UTC)</sp

I've read the manga, and skullkid (or rather stalkid) acts a bit different. He has severe moodswings, more like MM stlkid than Oot stalkid... And it would make sense that navi was the one that he was looking for. After all, if a guilt-filled ball of light flew out the window but all else was well, "Hmm...I'm bored. I think I'll go looking for one of my friends...". Oh god, how could I be so stupid?? It could have been Saria, Kaepora Gaebora, even the cow that Malon put in front of his house...just as likely.--Claire 21:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm almost certain he is one of the OoT Skull Kids because at the beginning of the game cutscene, he looks at you and says; "Huh, this guy. Well it shouldn't be a problem." That right there implies that he knows you kinda... I guess.NintenJoe231 03:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible that the "fairy kid" the Skull Kid was referring to was actually the Termanian counterpart to Link, or even a Termanian Koriri? Granny's story makes it pretty clear that this Skull Kid is from Termina and has probably been there for a long time. Jimbo Jambo 17:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

True as that is, you've gotta remember that Skull Kid knows how to move between Hyrule and Termina. I mean, you technically START the game in Hyrule before falling into the portal to Termina. So I would say that while there may very well be a Terminan counterpart to Link that we don't know of, it's also still possible that Skull Kid visited the Lost Woods using the Termina / Hyrule portal. User:Ando/sig 22:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I has assumed the power of the mask allowed him to do that, but for all I know the portal had already been there for a long time. Jimbo Jambo 15:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

My theorie is that there is only 2 skull kids: The Skull Kid in Majora's Mask (the one that buys the skull mask from you supposedly) and the one you play the memory game with (the other one there is an illusion) ~Charlie P. ;) 00:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Get lost, become....

I thought the quote was that lost people would become a Stalfos. "You a stalfos, me a stalfos, everybody a stalfos..." that's from memory tho.User:Axiomist/sig 02:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I remember...actually, I think one of the Gossip Stones in the woods says that people who enter the woods without the guidance of a fairy turn into monsters. So I think the logic is if you don't have a fairy, you'll get lost, and then you'll turn into a monster. I can only imagine how that mushroom potion might have helped Grog avoid becoming a Stalfos - at least, that's what I gather it did, or was doing. Article needs more citations in any case. Jimbo Jambo 07:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Good point. I was thinking that Hylians becom Stalfos and Kokri becon Skull Kids. Skull "KID"-- and Kokri Never grow::up.Hylians DO. and since Grog is the only known person to have been turned into a Stalfo, it makes sense.Well, I just ::wanted to bring up my theory, sort of...But good point, I forgot about the fairy thing. ~Moshata, The Mistress~ 15:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Navi also wonders if Skull Kids are what became of children who got lost in the woods. I would doubt they were Kokiri, but it would seem to imply that only children become Skull Kids, and thus, adults probably become Stalfos. Of course, Skull Kids and Stalfos are pretty different from one another, and it's hard to imagine a mid-ground between the two for people in between childhood and adulthood, but it's also kind of hard to imagine that there's a definite cut-off age where one loses the potential to become a Skull Kid and instead becomes a Stalfos — kids don't just poof turn into adults. Jimbo Jambo 20:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, also don't forget that in Japanese, Skull Kid is "Stalkid" which would imply that yes, those who get lost are turned into Stalfos, it's just that kids get turned into "Stalkids" and adults are turned into Stalfos.

Manga

Does someone want to add a section for the manga story revolving around the skull kid? —Alter  ^{{T C B H }} 19:41, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

If no one else wants to, I'll do it..Zelda nexgen

Skull kid's Flute

Instruments play a big role in the Legend of Zelda seris. Hence forth should we make a mini-article for it? Or, at the very least, a paragraph about it? -- Ember Incubus - 06:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a sentence or two about the continuity of the flute between games and its purpose, but I can't really see it going beyond that, especially since it is not a prominent instrument in the Zelda series. User:Cipriano 119/sig 07:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Common Enemy?

He's only thought twice (not counting OoT), and he appears in THREE games. Is that really a COMMON enemy???

You're right! I've removed it from the template. Also, don't forget to sign Zelda nexgen. Jeangabin 11:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Skull Kid Quantity Issue

I tend to agree with Ando in that Skull Kid knows how to use the portal between Termina and Hyrule. My best theory is that Skull Kid is a native of Termina, since it's indicated that was friends with the Giants. Unless he befriended them and they left in something close to a matter of seconds, the suggsested implication is that the Skull Kid in question is of Termina. Therefore, I wager he may have visited the Lost Woods at some point, probably repeatedly, shortly prior to the events of Ocarina of Time, where he became to some extend familiar to and with the nearby Kokiri inhabitants. I agree that the indications that Link and he have met before (in Hyrule) is strong and would be extremely difficult, if at all possible, to refute.

As another interesting thought, I seem to recall that the Skull Kid's pranks were initially a result of loneliness after the Giants' departure. Perhaps that's what prompted him to visit Hyrule in the first place; a desire to find friendship.

I further think that the Skull Kid present in Twilight Princess is the same one from Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time. Firstly, there doesn't seem to be any indication that Skull Kid is anything close to 'living', therefore age becomes most likely irrelivant. The fact that he plays Saria's Song seems to be a strong indication that they are one and the same. It may also explain why he assists Link. After all, I thought Skull Kid was supposed to dislike adults. Perhaps the Twilight Princess incarnation of Link reminds him of the Link he met during the days of Ocarina of Time (and subsequently Majora's Mask) where the two did establish something of the beginings of a friendship by most appearances.

As to whether or not there is a single Skull Kid, I'm less sure. It might be, however, that there are skull kids and then THE Skull Kid, in a similar vein to the fact that King Zora is obviously not the sole Zora. The Skull Kid who features prominently may be the leader (or even a random member of no particular societal significance) of the larger group of Skull Kids in general.

Ragnarok 02:01, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Separate pages for the Skull Kid of Majora's Mask and of Twilight Princess

The Skull Kid page is a race page, like the Goron page or Zora page. It seems inconsistent to me that the Skull Kid of Majora's Mask and of Twilight Princess don't have their own pages like any other characters (especially for characters of such importance), like the Mogmas have their own pages and so on. If that's fine, I'll take care of them. Itachou 08:57, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Well, it's true there were three Skull Kids, but one of them is the Skull Kid we know. He is the same person who appears in both the three games. As we all know, Skull Kid never ages, so he was able to return a century after the events of Majora's Mask, now as a sage of the Lost Woods/Sacred Grove. I think a page that focus on the character is great, which implies him from both Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. Yes, I'll make the character page and change this page into an article about Skull Kid race.--Prince Ludwig 18:57, 13 February 2012 (EST)

Here it is: Skull Kid (character) It could be alot better if you could also help me improve the article too. I added Skull Kid's artwork from Majora's Mask since the game was more focused on the character where he was alot cooler too. ;) So, let's change this article.

Split Created Redundancy

There is a lot of redundancy between the two pages now that this has been split. Usually, before splitting a page like this, there should be some discussion outside of a comment or two, but since the deed is done (and it may have been for the better) we want to leave it as is, but these two pages now require substantial reconciliation between them. So unless that ask is undertaken and completed, the action may be reversed. --Xizor 23:16, 18 February 2012 (EST)